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    LA Mexican consul says immigrants wrongly left out of debate

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    LA Mexican consul says immigrants wrongly left out of debate
    PETER PRENGAMAN
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    LOS ANGELES - Mexican immigrants have been wrongly excluded from the immigration reform debate, and building more fences along the U.S.-Mexico border could exacerbate migration problems, said Ruben Beltran, Mexico's consul general for Los Angeles.

    During an interview Wednesday, Beltran blamed the exclusion in part on vocal anti-illegal immigration groups like the Minutemen, but argued most Americans don't share their views. He also said Mexico's position on immigration reform had been unfairly portrayed.

    "Our position has been labeled as only rooting for a solution that involves the A-word," or amnesty for undocumented immigrants, said Beltran. "Which frankly, I don't find to be the case."

    The diplomat said a "true solution" to the immigration problem would include increased Mexican border security, foreign investment to create more jobs in Mexico and an expansion of guest-worker programs to allow Mexicans to work temporarily in the U.S.

    With an estimated 3.5 million people of Mexican descent, Los Angeles County is home to America's largest Mexican population, according to the U.S. Census.

    The national pro-immigrant movement was born here, bringing hundreds of thousands to the streets last spring demanding amnesty for more than 11 million illegal immigrants.

    The U.S. Senate passed a bill earlier this year that would have combined enhanced border security with a path to citizenship for many illegal immigrants, but it ultimately died because of a lack of consensus in the House of Representatives.

    Earlier this month, President Bush signed the Secure Fence Act, which will add 700 miles of fence along the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Beltran called the act a "fractured" response, saying it could ultimately cause more problems than it solves.

    "Are we going to favor organized crime that is preying on immigrants?" said Beltran, expressing views similar to the Mexican government's.

    He added that making illegal border crossings more dangerous could also increase the number of people who die trying to navigate miles of hot, barren desert.

    "And instead of having 300 deaths a year (in the desert), are we now going to have 600 deaths?" he asked.

    Beltran said he hoped Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger would "go deeper in his relationship with Mexico and Mexican immigrants."

    Schwarzenegger was criticized by Democratic opponent Phil Angelides earlier this month when the governor said it was difficult for Mexicans to assimilate because of the proximity to their home country. Schwarzenegger has talked about assimilation in the past.

    Beltran called Schwarzenegger's comment "unfortunate."

    "Sometimes he has not been able to express that sense of appreciation for the work of immigrants," said Beltran. "Mexicans are very good at integrating themselves into society."

    Schwarzenegger is scheduled to travel to Mexico immediately after the Nov. 7 election.
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    Ohhh they'll say anything to make sure those remittances keep on coming!!!
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    Mexican immigrants have been wrongly excluded from the immigration reform debate,
    Mexican immigrants should have a say in the immigration policy of Mexico. U.S. citizens should have a say in the immigration policy of the U.S.

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    During an interview Wednesday, Beltran blamed the exclusion in part on vocal anti-illegal immigration groups like the Minutemen, but argued most Americans don't share their views. He also said Mexico's position on immigration reform had been unfairly portrayed.
    Obviously the mexican consulat needs to do some more researching. Many polls show most Americans DO share the same views as the Minutemen, and we all know mexico's view on immigration reform.

    Big damn baby. Shut your mouth, close your traitorous office and move back home.
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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    With an estimated 3.5 million people of Mexican descent, Los Angeles County is home to America's largest Mexican population, according to the U.S. Census.
    Largest Mexican population in the U.S.? Hell, if not for Mexico City, L.A. would be the largest population of Mexicans in the world!!

    But of course, they don't mention it also has the largest population of welfare recipients, the largest population of prison inmates, the largest population of unwed mothers, the largest population of school dropouts, the largest population of gang bangers, rapists, murderers, carjackers, drug dealers, etc., etc., etc.
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    reptile09, your post, avatar, and signature are brilliant. I love them.

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    Beltran ... argued most Americans don't share their views. WRONG

    FIRST OF ALL ..STRIKE ONE
    most Americans as they learn the truth about illegal aliens invading our country and the mayhem this is causing instead of poor mary. who just wants a better life..are against open borders and freebies...
    He also said Mexico's position on immigration reform had been unfairly portrayed. WRONG
    well!! I ask then where were you Mr. Fox or a Mexican rep when you were invited to the Lou Dodds show (in I think in Missouri) ? We could have heard right from the Foxes mouth...but you all chose not to participate
    ...you cowards
    Mexican immigrants have been wrongly excluded from the immigration reform debate, WRONG
    ...Rosa ran her mouth for everyone...and some illegals or supporters spoke their mind....
    strike 3 ...I heard more than enough of this B.S. CRAP....
    ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION- NO SUCH THING ...SINCE IMMIGRATION IS A LEGAL PLATFORM LEGAL IMMIGRATES AVAIL THEMSELVES OF...THEY ARE PROTECTED BY LAWS AS ARE ASYLUM SEEKERS AND REFUGEES....
    NEW AMERICANS, VIRTUALLY AMERICAN, IMMIGRATES,MIGRATES,VICTIMS OF SMUGGLING,UNDOCUMENTED WHATEVER... ARE ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO DON'T HAVE RIGHTS UNDER OUR CONSTUTION...THESE POLICIALLY CORRECT MIS-USE OF TERMS ARE BY POLICAL COWARDS AND POLICAL CORRUPTED.
    <div>If a squirrel goes up a politician's pants... You can bet...he'll come-back down hungry.....



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