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    ‘The Don King of Cockfights’

    http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/06/04/news-lowery.php




    ‘The Don King of Cockfights’
    He whipped Bob Dornan. Now Latino activist Nativo Lopez turns his attention to cocks of a different sort



    by STEVE LOWERY


    The location of Nativo Lopez’s mind has become a subject of interest for those aware of the former political heavyweight’s recent crusade: cockfighting.

    Yep, the man who went toe to toe with Bob Dornan and won, the man who five years ago seemed on his way to becoming one of the region’s leading Latino power brokers, was spotted recently using his position as president of the Mexican American Political Association (MAPA) to push the agenda of those who enjoy and profit from cockfighting.

    Lopez’s obsession with cockfighting came to our attention when colleague Gustavo Arellano wrote in a Sept. 2 “Ask a Mexican� that Lopez was leading opposition to Senate Bill 156. That legislation would make repeat cockfighting offenses punishable as a felony. Lopez had called the bill “completely oblivious to the cultural, economic and social realities of our community.�

    A lot of people, myself included, thought Arellano and Lopez were using cockfighting as a metaphor, you know, as for that thing men do to test each other, to see how they measure up, as it were, you know, the reason men buy big trucks and start land wars, all of it best summed up by the Richard Pryor joke about two gents unzipping while standing on a bridgeâ€â€
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    a tickle fight between Rip Taylor and Phyllis Diller
    The visualization of this is too ridiculous to even comprehend. He was awesome in "Freddy Got Fingered", though. In fact, he was the only good part in that retarded piece of crap.

    Just wait until the chickens start suing Lopez.

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    The sport is still legal in New Mexico and Louisiana

    Cockfighting without razors
    http://www.Gamecockboxing.com
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    Only an animal would get off on watching two animals killing each other. This is the kind of diversity we don't need.

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    We have laws against cruelty to animals. This is all cockfighting and dogfighting is...cruelty. Just b/c something is 'game'--read courageous-- is no excuse to purposely place them in a fight or die situation.

    Someone near us ( we live on a ranch in the country) obviously raises and fights pit bulls. Several years ago a female pit bull appeared here on our porch as near death as anything I've ever seen. So thin she was emaciated, she'd been fought and her throat was just a space of raw meat. She stank to high heaven. Miraculously she lived. We kept her here for a long time. It took her years to get past her fear of humans. This can ONLY be defined a cruelty. NOT SPORT. There's nothing 'sporting' about it.

    Currently we have a young pitbull that appeared here last spring...he moved into our barn...so thin he could barely stand. He's taken up with the horses, goes with them wherever they go and defends them from stray dogs and coyotes. He won't get within 30 feet of us. We just put his food out there and walk away. He barks at us and wags ferociously in greeting....but no one can touch him.

    What a perverted use of an animals loyalty. It's sickening.

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    That breaks my heart, Roadrunner. Two things get me from zero to sixty in less than one second--child abuse and animal abuse. My friend Fisa, whose whole family is from Mexico, told me that in Mexico, if your dog gets sick, you just drive it out to some country road and dump it. That's how she got her current dog--it was the family pet and it got some minor skin problem so the parents were going to dump it. Fisa rescued the dog. She said she's trying to teach her parents that tha's wrong, but it's a slow painful process.

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    I don't know if anyone is familiar with Nativo Lopez but here is a small audio sample that will give you some idea.

    http://www.johnandkenshow.com/audio/fil ... zslurs.wmx
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    Oh God--I forgot about that dreary audio tape from John and Ken. Typical hysterical left wing drivel. I think we should all hold hands and cry for Lopez.

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    Here's an interview he did for the Socialist Worker where he openly supports cockfighting.


    http://www.socialistworker.org/2004-2/5 ... opez.shtml

    Breaking away from the Democrats:
    “No support from the party we built�

    October 29, 2004 | Page 6

    NATIVO LOPEZ is president of the Mexican American Political Association (MAPA), one of the oldest and most respected political organizations representing Latinos, Chicanos and Mexican people in the U.S. Earlier this year, he chose to change his party affiliation from the Democratic Party to the Green Party. He is supporting the independent campaign of Ralph Nader and Peter Camejo.
    Lopez talked to SARAH KNOPP about his decision and the issues involved in Election 2004.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    WHAT ISSUES do you think are most important to your community in these elections?
    THE QUESTIONS or issues most important to my community are: the war in Iraq and its prolongation under either administration, and the prospect of a military draft; the sluggishness of the economy and the receding real wage of our families; the decline of investment in education and the added obstacles to access to quality education and higher education; the continuation of an unjust immigration policy, specifically along the Mexico-U.S. border, and the average one death a day of a Mexican attempting to cross the border; the lack of political representation under both traditional political parties, and therefore, the sharp increase in independent voter registration among Latinos (a manifestation of the alienation among Latinos towards these parties); the sharp increase of the medically uninsured and underserved, and the price hikes for medical services; and the prospect of an all-out assault on a women's right to choose.

    WHAT DO you think we should do after the election? Is your answer to this question different depending on whether Bush or Kerry wins?

    MY FEELING about what should occur subsequent to the elections would apply under either party administration--organization, organization, organization of our community. We need to hold the government accountable for their actions and to obey the governed.

    WHY DO you think the Democratic Party decided not to seek the endorsement of MAPA?

    NOT ONLY MAPA, but any organization that is truly independent of the Democratic Party machine. They truly fear an unscripted appearance before the Latino community. If it is not a scripted rally driven by the consultants and sycophants of the candidate, they ignore and avoid the occasion and audience. This is an example of plasticity and falsehood that will eventually catch up with the centrists.

    WHAT WAS the most important reason you changed your party affiliation?

    FOR TOO long, I worked within the grassroots of the Democratic Party--not the party machine, nor with the elected officials, but building within the Latino community, driving voter registration campaigns, supporting local candidates, building grassroots leadership, promoting Latino political representation and mounting U.S. citizenship campaigns.

    We have never enjoyed legitimate and sincere support from the very party that we helped build, and in many cases, elected candidates from this party. It is an unresponsive party to the needs of the majorities and is driven by white male millionaires and their political consultants, who only seek to impose their political will on the majorities (including white workers)--and only support those candidates of color who they can control and manipulate for their own economic interest.

    It is a party that cannot be reformed nor any longer aspire to great leadership and reformation of the current political system and climate. It, too, is the party of globalization.

    It was time for me to move on and work to move my community beyond the Democratic Party. It is the only hope for our social progress.

    I have studied the political platform of the Green Party, and I agree with it 99 percent. I still covertly like cockfighting--an old Mexican tradition. Second, this party has an international affiliation, which I believe is important considering the current effects of globalization on the world. Third, it is diverse and still provides an opportunity to define an alternative progressive political direction for Mexicans, Mexican Americans and Latinos. Fourth, young Latinos are not impressed with the traditional political parties. They do not meet their needs, and young people have much to contribute to the progressive resolution of the world's problems.
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    I have had relatives in my extended family who were cock fighters. Most of them were uneducated though one taught college math. My father was a biologist with a PhD his position was that "cocks fight naturally, humans make it deadly by adding razor sharp artificial spurs... do not ban cockfighting... ban spurs."
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