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    1.4 million Mexicans waiting to legally immigrate into U.S.

    1.4 million Mexicans waiting to legally immigrate into U.S., only 65,600 were allowed in

    Published: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 6:30 AM
    By Brian Lawson, The Huntsville Times

    Many of the complaints about illegal immigration in Alabama center on the unwillingness of millions of immigrants to obey U.S. rules and imigrate legally.

    But for those aspiring to live and work in America, especially for families in Mexico, it's not a simple matter of waiting for the proper forms. Even for those with family here, it can take decades and may be near impossible to secure the paperwork to enter the United States legally.

    Last year 1.38 million Mexican citizens were waiting in line for a United States work visa or an immigration visa through a family member. But there were only 26,000 visas made available for Mexico last year.

    The visa cap applies evenly to each country, but Mexico has by far the longest waiting list, according to U.S. State Department figures.

    Even the applications now being processed for extended family, such as the Mexico-born adult children or the siblings of now-U.S. citizens date back to late 1992 and early 1993. In other words, the waiting period to legally imigrate to the U.S. through a family member who has become a citizen is now 18 years.

    Boyd Campbell, a veteran immigration lawyer in Montgomery, said basic math complicates the debate.

    Country
    Waiting list
    Issued to Immediate family
    Total issued

    Mexico
    1,381,896
    43,340
    65,621

    Phillipines
    535,750
    16,537
    37,394

    India
    336,719
    12,039
    28,468

    Vietnam
    283,299
    7,038
    27,557

    China - mainland
    274,563
    13,245
    30,425

    Dominican Republic
    162,323
    13,080
    43,615

    Bangladesh
    154,622
    4,132
    13,287

    Pakistan
    113,816
    5,161
    11,317

    Haiti
    105,193
    7,206
    15,887

    Cuba
    86,969
    2,743
    3,365

    El Salvador
    85,706
    4,316
    10,719

    South Korea
    68,852
    2,018
    4,631

    Jamaica
    67,766
    5,193
    10,247

    Worldwide Total
    4,683,393
    215,947
    482,052

    "The dichotomy here from my point of view is that we complain about all the people here illegally but don't provide enough visas to enable them to come here legally," Campbell said.

    However, there is one exception.

    There are no limits on the number of visas for immediate family of U.S. citizens. That is defined as spouses, minor children or parents. And that process takes only about a year, experts said.

    'Dream Act' debate

    Entering the U.S. without permission is a misdemeanor under U.S. law. It is rarely prosecuted, federal officials say, and instead treated as a civil violation that can lead to deportation.

    For someone who has entered the U.S. without authorization, whether as an adult or an infant, there is generally no recourse to change their immigration status while they are here illegally. A Pew Hispanic Center study estimated in a 2010 study that 300,000 people per year illegally entered the United States, 150,000 of those Mexicans.

    Campbell said a measure before Congress that could alleviate some pressure is the so-called "Dream Act." The act gives illegal immigrants who entered the U.S. at age 15 or younger a path to citizenship if they maintain good character and complete college or join the U.S. military. The measure was debated in the U.S. Senate last year but did not move forward. The bill has been reintroduced this year, and a Senate hearing was recently held on it, but no vote has been scheduled.

    "There is a fundamental misunderstanding in Congress about this," Campbell said. "Some senators and congressmen believe these children are criminals, but they completely disregard the issue of capacity. They didn't have capacity to commit a crime (given their young age), and it's a misdemeanor anyway."

    But U.S. Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Mobile, has been an outspoken critic, calling the Dream Act a loophole-laden mass amnesty. He played a similar role in helping defeat a broader immigration bill in 2006 and 2007 despite support from then-President George W. Bush.

    "Americans want Congress to end the lawlessness, but this bill would have us surrender to it. It is a give-up type of approach," Sessions said in December.

    Tougher laws

    While the legal immigration process is complex and crowded, the law enforcement landscape facing illegal immigrants is also shifting.

    On one hand, state legislatures from Arizona to Georgia are pushing for tougher laws against all illegal immigration. But federal immigration officials are running a priority system that focuses on other criminal activity and employer violations.

    The U.S. immigration detention system has the capacity to detain about 33,000 people at a time, and there are an estimated 10 million to 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

    Supporters of Alabama's new law have stressed that a lack of federal enforcement of immigration laws spurred the state to take action. The new Alabama law itself argues that the current system encourages widespread lawlessness by overlooking illegal immigration. But federal officials say the government is active.

    Gillian Christensen, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, said the federal government deported nearly 395,000 people last year, the highest number in history. Christensen said that figure includes more than 195,000 convicted criminals, showing a focus on "criminal aliens who are threats to public safety."

    And in a ruling temporarily blocking parts of Georgia's immigration law, U.S. District Judge Thomas Thrash said Georgia's creation of new immigration charges would undermine federal authority. "The widespread belief that the federal government is doing nothing about illegal immigration is belief in a myth," Thrash wrote.

    Alabama's law expands the focus of enforcement to include illegal immigrant workers, renters, and car passengers, among others.

    But John Morton, director of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, sent a memo last month to field office directors, special agents in charge and department attorneys that focuses on using "prosecutorial discretion" in considering apprehension, detention and removal of illegal immigrants.

    Morton said the list is not a set of rights that a defendant can claim but that federal officers should consider each individual's circumstances including age, education background, military service, criminal history, ties to family and community, and responsibilities to ill, aging or disabled family members.

    Isabel Rubio, executive director of the Hispanic Interest Coalition of Alabama in Birmingham, one of the groups suing to block Alabama's immigration law, said illegal immigrants are often caught between two worlds.

    "To emigrate is a very complicated process; it takes a lot of time, and it takes a lot of money," Rubio said. "Because of a close to 20-year backlog for residents of Mexico, people don't feel like they have 20 years to wait in line.

    "So they choose to come to this country without permission, because their labor is needed in many of the low-wage, low-skilled jobs in our country. But because of how they entered, they have no opportunity to come out of the shadows."

    Leave to meet law

    The authors of Alabama's new immigration law argue that illegal immigrants are taking jobs from American citizens and creating an additional burden for law enforcement, schools and hospitals. One sponsor, Rep. Mickey Hammon, R-Decatur, has said while the law may be challenged in court, he hopes it will encourage illegal immigrants to leave the state.

    Indeed, Alabama's new law is creating anxiety for a number of area families, said Joan Harris, a Huntsville immigration attorney. Harris said couples who are here illegally but have children born in the U.S. are afraid of what changes the new law might bring for their family.

    Even an illegal immigrant who marries a U.S citizen, has children here and who has a clean record will have to leave the country to conform to current law, Harris said.

    The citizen spouse could petition for a visa, but it would be denied based on their spouse's illegal entry. The spouse would have to leave the U.S., then petition to have the required 10-year visa ban for illegal entry lifted before he or she could return. If all goes well, that process takes at least a few months, Harris said.

    Work visas are another avenue for legal immigration, but even skilled engineers and other professionals can face long waits, given the relatively low number of visas issued each year. For low-skill workers around the world, there is little chance of securing entry to the U.S.

    The United States also issues guest worker visas, but those generally do not provide a path to citizenship. Harris, the immigration attorney, said work is the central issue for most illegal immigrants.

    "For example, as far as Mexican nationals are concerned, I don't believe for one minute they would be here illegally if it weren't for the fact they were getting jobs here," she said. "This is what the farmers have been jumping up and down about for years, and all the other high-risk jobs. I don't believe the honest good guy would be coming here to not get work; he can stay in Mexico and not get work. They're here for a better life for them and their children. "It's not any different from any other influx of immigrants. It's just being viewed differently."

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    GAG...can you imagine flooding our country with this many people?? Makes me shudder!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicNTiredInSoCal
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    GAG...can you imagine flooding our country with this many people?? Makes me shudder!!!!!
    That's just the people who want to come here and are willing to wait their turn.

    Imagine how many millions want to come here illegally so they don't have to wait.
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    This article leans heavily towards making it easier for MEXICANS to emigrate here and justifying their illegal entry because the wait is too long. BOO-freaking-HOO! We waited 15 years for permission and this was in the late 50's - early '60s!!

    If we're so desperate for unskilled cheap labor, why not let people from other countries (poor countries, mexico is NOT a poor country!) have a chance at the American dream? Why should mexicans have special privileges not afforded to others? Why not let more Haitians in legally, as it is a poor country?

    I don't believe we need any unskilled, uneducated workers..we have enough already.

    In addition, mexico should not be getting any visas until illegal immigration is reversed. If you are not here legally. you need to be expelled.

    In the meantime millions of people around the world have been waiting patiently to emigrate, some for decades. What's the hold up? Perhaps because so many mexicans are illegally entering and taking up those spots?

    There should be a moratorium on immigration until all illegal aliens are deported.
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    Why are they allowing all of these ppl to come here every year? This make absolutely no sense. Americans are the ones suffering here.
    We recognize that if you really want to create a job tomorrow, you can remove an illegal alien today

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    Here's my plan - no more legal immigration from Mexico until their yearly allotments add up to the number of illegals in the U.S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReggieMay
    Here's my plan - no more legal immigration from Mexico until their yearly allotments add up to the number of illegals in the U.S.
    Absolutely I agree with you and miguelina NO MORE green cards for Mexicans until/unless illegal Mexicans go home. Mexico quota was surpassed years go.

    Time to give other countries those green cards after a 5 to 10 yr. halt in ALL immigraion.
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    What you can't get legally you should just steal. This logic doesn't work for me but that's what this article seems to be saying. If these people are comming here for jobs even if its low skilled low pay as this article claims. Its no excuess to break the law of this country the fact remains the same we have a southren boarder that over a million people can just walk across in a year. The states try to fight it the goverment try to stop the states. They say 12 million people are here and were supposed to get excited over them deporting 300k back. That leaves 700k fresh immigrints that just crossed the border still here. The hispanics say were racial profiling if our police stops a dark person. News flash even I have to show id when I get pulled over and if I don't have it its another ticket! I'm soo tired of all this BS. Our politicians sit in washinton doing nothing and earning top dollar for it while the rest of america struggles just to make ends meet. This is insane and that's putting it lightly.

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