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    Holder flipping - Mexico wants to extridite agent

    I think, that we need to kick all of their drug dealing, welfare defrauding, drunk driving, gang member, murdering "citizen's" butts back across the boder. - NOW

    Border Patrol Shooting: Mexico Condemns Killing Of Teen
    CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN and OLIVIA TORRES | 06/11/10 06:07 PM |


    The FBI has opened a civil rights probe against a Border Patrol agent who shot and killed a 15-year-old Mexican boy at the boundary with Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, a U.S. official told The Associated Press on Friday.

    Mexican prosecutors, meanwhile, are investigating the case as a homicide, raising the possibility that the agent could also face charges in Mexico, although it is unlikely the U.S. would agree to extradite him.

    The Border Patrol agent was trying to arrest illegal immigrants running into the United States on Monday when he fired his weapon from the U.S. side into Mexico, where people were throwing rocks toward him. A bullet killed 15-year-old Sergio Adrian Hernandez Huereka, who died in Mexican territory. It is still unclear whether Hernandez was throwing rocks.

    The FBI formally added the civil rights element to its broader investigation into the alleged assault on the Border Patrol agent, said the official who was familiar with investigation, but was not authorized to speak on the subject and so spoke only on condition of anonymity.

    A civil rights probe investigates allegations of abuse by any U.S. law enforcement officer. If investigators determine the Border Patrol agent shot Hernandez without justification, he could be found to have violated Hernandez's civil rights, which is a crime. The fate of the agent could range from being cleared of all wrongdoing to a charge of homicide.

    Prosecutors in the Mexican border state of Chihuahua have concluded Hernandez's death was an intentional homicide and charges should be filed against the perpetrator, said Alejandro Parientes, the regional state deputy attorney general. However, state authorities have turned the case over to the federal prosecutors for further investigation and a final decision. The federal Attorney General's Office said there would be no public comment while the investigation continues.

    Parientes said his investigation concluded the agent fired his weapon from the U.S. side of the border, but because Hernandez died on the Mexican side, Mexican courts have jurisdiction.

    "The homicide had its consequences in Mexican territory," Parientes said. "What I can say is that we have enough evidence to file homicide charges in a Mexican court."

    The FBI is leading the U.S. investigation because the incident involves a federal officer, whose identity has not been released.

    Civil rights investigations are not unusual in cases involving Border Patrol dealings with foreign nationals. In Hernandez's case, civil rights concerns had always been in the background as the investigation proceeded, but the decision was made to formally embark on that path Thursday.

    Just last week, a Border Patrol agent pleaded guilty in federal court in Arizona to a criminal civil rights charge for assaulting a Mexican citizen in his custody. In that case, the agent unnecessarily kicked and punched a man in his custody, according to the FBI. Sentencing is scheduled for August.

    Thomas E. Perez, assistant attorney general for the Civil Rights Division at the Justice Department, said at the time of the Arizona case that his agency "will aggressively prosecute any officer who violates the rights of others and abuses the power they are given to perform their critical duties."

    U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Thursday that the possibility of excessive force and violation of civil rights "will certainly be a part of what the investigators will look at" in the El Paso case.

    The president of the union representing Border Patrol agents said he feels the civil rights probe into Monday's shooting is politically motivated.

    "At the beginning, the (Justice Department) was not saying this was a civil rights investigation, then they changed their tune yesterday – in my view, for political reasons," said T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council.

    As the week wore on, condemnations from Mexican officials have become increasingly severe.

    Mexican Interior Secretary Fernando Gomez Mont called U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Mexico issued a formal diplomatic note expressing concern. And lawmakers from both the ruling and opposition political parties have demanded the agent's extradition for prosecution in Mexico.

    Mexican President Felipe Calderon gave no indication his government plans to seek extradition. Instead, he called for a thorough U.S. investigation that "clears up the facts and culminates with punishing those responsible."

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    Associated Press Writer Christopher Sherman reported this story from El Paso and Olivia Torres from Ciudad Juarez, Mexico. AP writers Pete Yost in Washington and Juan A. Lozano in Houston contributed to this report.

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    WHAT? They ALL need some rocks thrown at their heads so they can think straight. A rock can kill. We get to deal with it here in the Phoenix area ALL THE TIME! The rock throwing does not stop at the border!

    OMG! Holder had better stand firm on behalf of the BPatrol guy. If politicians and media are confused now can you imagine how confused they will be if the ones here are allowed to stay? If they let more in?

    OMG! They want us to kill each other in the streets the creeps!

    This is exactly why I have no idea what to believe about the Palestinians, the Israelis, Gaza - none of it. When I see how things are turned around I have to question everything I read and hear. The difference is - I haven't lived there. . . . I have lived here - I know people who tell me what life is like for BPatrol and I have sufffered the acting out of the illegal and legal Mexican race hatred here on the streets, on jobs, in the supermarket. I KNOW Calderon is a pimp for the globalist agenda fueled by the greed of the cinco familias.

    OBAMA best set them straight - throwing rocks is a form of deadly force - it needs to cease - we have it on tape - anyone who throws rocks across the border at anyone will be met with deadly force - END OF STORY.

    Otherwise we all best be perfecting our pitching arms and gathering arms. [/b]
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    In the US, ANY agression towards a peace officer is an indicator for self defense.

    Change I DID not vote for.
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    Let us not forget the BP agent who is on administrative leave. I hope that there is a charitable organization that will help him to meet expenses for however long this idiocy lasts. I know damn well if one of those rocks hit him to where he was down they would have continued to stone him until he was dead. I'm very tired of my nation bending over for others to violate us and sacrificing the lives and careers of our very best just for twisted politics. If our government wants us to support it - then it had better start supporting us and here is a chance for them not to rub our faces in it for once.
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    "At the beginning, the (Justice Department) was not saying this was a civil rights investigation, then they changed their tune yesterday – in my view, for political reasons," said T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council.
    Oh, oh, hope this doesn't turn into another Ramos and Compean type situation.
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    This is one of those jobs that I am amazed that anyone even takes anymore.
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    DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS

    That kid wanted to cross the border. We do not want illegal aliens. The agents were doing their jobs. If the Mexican government does not want its people in risk situations (like the kid), then its people must not cross our border. WE DO NOT WANT ILLEGAL ALIENS IN THE UNITED STATES. DID YOU HEAR MEXICO? WE ARE TIRED OF ILLEGAL ALIENS.

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    Why was someone on the Mexican side of the border filming the incident unless they were trying to provoke a U.S. officer into doing something? People don't normally tape something boring.
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