Thread: 15 illegal aliens in van released

"...federal immigration officials didn't want to go out in bad
weather.."

"We can't detain them unless they commit a crime," he said.
--
Keith

UPDATE: March 26, 2005 .... ICE has again refused to investigate in Troy, NY ..see
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-1056.html

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune ... 09332.html

15 illegal aliens in van released
By Bob Stiles
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, March 3, 2005

State police at Somerset released a vanload of 15 illegal aliens after
federal immigration officials didn't want to go out in bad weather
this week.

Cpl. Robert F. Johnson said in a news release that he stopped a van
carrying the aliens at about 1:45 p.m. Tuesday on a section of the
Pennsylvania Turnpike in Stony Creek Township, Somerset County. He
then couldn't get U.S. immigration officials to travel to the Somerset
barracks of the turnpike, he said.

"They declined to take the aliens into custody, citing poor weather
conditions," Johnson's report stated.

He couldn't be reached for comment Wednesday.

Sgt. Anthony DeLuca, the commander of the turnpike station, said
police were forced to release the 13 Mexicans and two Guatemalans when
the federal officials didn't come.

"We can't detain them unless they commit a crime," he said.

Ernestine Fobbs, spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security's
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Bureau, confirmed that the
decision not to go was made because of snowfall and heavy winds. It
also followed a background check on the aliens.

"We didn't want to risk the lives of our employees or the aliens," she
said. "We didn't think that they were a threat."

Fobbs explained that because of the number of aliens and the weather,
it would have taken immigration personnel about three hours to get a
needed vehicle and reach the state police station.

The incident wasn't the first of its kind in the area.

In May, immigration officials didn't want to get involved after
Greensburg police had stopped seven Mexican men and women who admitted
being illegal aliens. The immigration officials were only interested
in getting involved if any of the Mexicans had a criminal background
or an outstanding warrant, police said.

Subsequently, an immigration spokesman conceded that his agency
handled the situation and communications with police poorly.

Greensburg police stopped the Mexican's extended-cab vehicle at a
traffic checkpoint set up on North Main Street, near Cabin Hill Drive.
Through a translator, they admitted being in the country illegally.
They said they were heading for Philadelphia from Columbus, Ohio, in
search of construction work.

DeLuca said that before they set the illegal aliens free, police
checked the aliens for outstanding warrants or other problems through
police information databanks. A search also was done for deportation
or other problems through an immigration databank.

No criminal records, deportation or other problems showed up, DeLuca
said.

Mexican voter cards and other forms of identification were used to get
the names of the aliens. In some cases, officials got the aliens'
names after they gave them to a translator.

DeLuca declined to comment on the immigration officials not traveling
to Somerset County Tuesday.

He said aliens periodically are stopped by police in southwestern
Pennsylvania. Typically, they are heading from the western part of the
United States eastward, he explained.

The 15 aliens stopped this week were heading from Colorado to New
Jersey for work.

Yesterday, immigration officials went to Bedford County to take
custody of six people who were stopped on the turnpike by state police
and were determined to be illegal aliens, said Carl DeFebo, turnpike
spokesman.

"This time, INS came out," he said.

DeFebo didn't have any statistics on how many illegal aliens are
stopped on the turnpike each year.

According to the 2000 U.S. Census, about 7 million immigrants --
mostly Mexicans -- were living in the United States illegally.

"...federal immigration officials didn't want to go out in bad
weather.."

"We can't detain them unless they commit a crime," he said.
--
Keith

UPDATE: March 26, 2005 .... ICE has again refused to investigate in Troy, NY ..see
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-1056.html

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune ... 09332.html

15 illegal aliens in van released
By Bob Stiles
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, March 3, 2005

State police at Somerset released a vanload of 15 illegal aliens after
federal immigration officials didn't want to go out in bad weather
this week.

Cpl. Robert F. Johnson said in a news release that he stopped a van
carrying the aliens at about 1:45 p.m. Tuesday on a section of the
Pennsylvania Turnpike in Stony Creek Township, Somerset County. He
then couldn't get U.S. immigration officials to travel to the Somerset
barracks of the turnpike, he said.

"They declined to take the aliens into custody, citing poor weather
conditions," Johnson's report stated.

He couldn't be reached for comment Wednesday.

Sgt. Anthony DeLuca, the commander of the turnpike station, said
police were forced to release the 13 Mexicans and two Guatemalans when
the federal officials didn't come.

"We can't detain them unless they commit a crime," he said.

Ernestine Fobbs, spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security's
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Bureau, confirmed that the
decision not to go was made because of snowfall and heavy winds. It
also followed a background check on the aliens.

"We didn't want to risk the lives of our employees or the aliens," she
said. "We didn't think that they were a threat."

Fobbs explained that because of the number of aliens and the weather,
it would have taken immigration personnel about three hours to get a
needed vehicle and reach the state police station.

The incident wasn't the first of its kind in the area.

In May, immigration officials didn't want to get involved after
Greensburg police had stopped seven Mexican men and women who admitted
being illegal aliens. The immigration officials were only interested
in getting involved if any of the Mexicans had a criminal background
or an outstanding warrant, police said.

Subsequently, an immigration spokesman conceded that his agency
handled the situation and communications with police poorly.

Greensburg police stopped the Mexican's extended-cab vehicle at a
traffic checkpoint set up on North Main Street, near Cabin Hill Drive.
Through a translator, they admitted being in the country illegally.
They said they were heading for Philadelphia from Columbus, Ohio, in
search of construction work.

DeLuca said that before they set the illegal aliens free, police
checked the aliens for outstanding warrants or other problems through
police information databanks. A search also was done for deportation
or other problems through an immigration databank.

No criminal records, deportation or other problems showed up, DeLuca
said.

Mexican voter cards and other forms of identification were used to get
the names of the aliens. In some cases, officials got the aliens'
names after they gave them to a translator.

DeLuca declined to comment on the immigration officials not traveling
to Somerset County Tuesday.

He said aliens periodically are stopped by police in southwestern
Pennsylvania. Typically, they are heading from the western part of the
United States eastward, he explained.

The 15 aliens stopped this week were heading from Colorado to New
Jersey for work.

Yesterday, immigration officials went to Bedford County to take
custody of six people who were stopped on the turnpike by state police
and were determined to be illegal aliens, said Carl DeFebo, turnpike
spokesman.

"This time, INS came out," he said.

DeFebo didn't have any statistics on how many illegal aliens are
stopped on the turnpike each year.

According to the 2000 U.S. Census, about 7 million immigrants --
mostly Mexicans -- were living in the United States illegally.

Outrageous!

Outrageous!

This is Homeland Security done Bush administration style. I love how they make every excuse in the book to not do their jobs. Oh it was bad weather. Come on, give me a break. You worthless feds wouldn't do jack squat even if the weather was perfect.

"We can't detain them unless they commit a crime," he said.

Lets see entering the country illegally is a federal offense and driving without a license is a crime as well. I'm sure craming 15 illegals in one van is called human smuggling/trafficing which is also illegal and a safety hazard as well. Carrying fraudlent ID such as the Matricula Consular card and a fake S.S. card. Right there I count at least four major crimes. So what's the problem?

Oh and I also count an offense that would normally get an officer fired, in this instance I call it deriliction of duty. I'm sure catching and releasing criminals is not the proper way to serve and protect, or is it to serve and protect only when we feel like it?

This is Homeland Security done Bush administration style. I love how they make every excuse in the book to not do their jobs. Oh it was bad weather. Come on, give me a break. You worthless feds wouldn't do jack squat even if the weather was perfect.

"We can't detain them unless they commit a crime," he said.

Lets see entering the country illegally is a federal offense and driving without a license is a crime as well. I'm sure craming 15 illegals in one van is called human smuggling/trafficing which is also illegal and a safety hazard as well. Carrying fraudlent ID such as the Matricula Consular card and a fake S.S. card. Right there I count at least four major crimes. So what's the problem?

Oh and I also count an offense that would normally get an officer fired, in this instance I call it deriliction of duty. I'm sure catching and releasing criminals is not the proper way to serve and protect, or is it to serve and protect only when we feel like it?

"We didn't want to risk the lives of our employees or the aliens," she said. "We didn't think that they were a threat."

But yet you all don't seem to care about risking the lives of the citizens of this country with your gross neglect when it comes to enforcing the law. How would you all know that these aliens aren't a threat? You don't even know who these people are.

Fobbs explained that because of the number of aliens and the weather, it would have taken immigration personnel about three hours to get a needed vehicle and reach the state police station.

Total rubbish. What's there excuse every other time? Oh I got it, it's Oh we are too busy fighting the war on terror angle to pursue illegal aliens.

In May, immigration officials didn't want to get involved after
Greensburg police had stopped seven Mexican men and women who admitted being illegal aliens. The immigration officials were only interested in getting involved if any of the Mexicans had a criminal background or an outstanding warrant, police said.

Of course too many of them aren't going to have criminal backgrounds when they use fradulent ID's and fake S.S. #'s to disguise their true identity. Even UBL himself could sneak into this country with a dirty nuke, hide his identity and the worthless feds wouldn't know what hit them.

Geez people wouldn't the fact that they are here illegally, don't have proper documentation on them and illegally driving around in this country be suspicion enough to detain them? You'd think especially in a post 9-11 world.

"We didn't want to risk the lives of our employees or the aliens," she said. "We didn't think that they were a threat."

But yet you all don't seem to care about risking the lives of the citizens of this country with your gross neglect when it comes to enforcing the law. How would you all know that these aliens aren't a threat? You don't even know who these people are.

Fobbs explained that because of the number of aliens and the weather, it would have taken immigration personnel about three hours to get a needed vehicle and reach the state police station.

Total rubbish. What's there excuse every other time? Oh I got it, it's Oh we are too busy fighting the war on terror angle to pursue illegal aliens.

In May, immigration officials didn't want to get involved after
Greensburg police had stopped seven Mexican men and women who admitted being illegal aliens. The immigration officials were only interested in getting involved if any of the Mexicans had a criminal background or an outstanding warrant, police said.

Of course too many of them aren't going to have criminal backgrounds when they use fradulent ID's and fake S.S. #'s to disguise their true identity. Even UBL himself could sneak into this country with a dirty nuke, hide his identity and the worthless feds wouldn't know what hit them.

Geez people wouldn't the fact that they are here illegally, don't have proper documentation on them and illegally driving around in this country be suspicion enough to detain them? You'd think especially in a post 9-11 world.

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