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    2 men die in tavern gunfire; one was Mex Mafia

    2 men die in tavern gunfire
    3 deaths in one day push city's '07 count to 25
    By Wes Woods II and Melissa Pinion-Whitt, Staff Writer
    Article Launched: 11/15/2007 12:00:00 AM PST

    Nancy Verdusco 25 of Pico Rivera stands outside of Characters Sports Bar in Pomona Wednesday, and reads a press release containing information about a shooting that took the life of her son's father Enrique Sanchez and another man Tuesday night.

    POMONA - Nancy Verdusco arrived at Characters Sports Bar Wednesday looking for answers. Watch Video: Sports Bar Shooting; Two Dead 11/14
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    "I don't know how I'm going to tell my son," the Pico Rivera woman said as she stood outside the bar.

    Through dark sunglasses, the woman was reading the police report about the shooting the night before that killed two men and left another man hospitalized.

    Enrique Sanchez, 26, a Chino man and father of Verdusco's 5-year-old son, was one of those killed in the gunfire. Frankie Buelna, 61, of Pomona died after being flown to Los Angeles County-USC Medical Center, according to police and coroner officials.

    A unidentified Rialto man who was shot in the upper body remained hospitalized Wednesday.

    The gunfire erupted about 9:30 p.m. Tuesday after an argument among four people in the bar at 276 E. First St.

    Police said two men got into a fight with Sanchez and Buelna, and one of the unidentified men pulled out a gun. The Rialto man was a patron who wasn't involved in the confrontation, Pomona police Sgt. Rick Baker said.

    After the shooting, the two suspects fled in a gold car, possibly an import, Baker said.

    The two killings made it three violent deaths in the city in 24 hours, following the killing of a Pomona man who police say was shot to death in his apartment Monday night.

    Sanchez and Buelna's deaths are the city's 24th and 25th criminal homicides this year.

    A handful of people close to those killed were at the bar Wednesday morning. The bar was closed, and tiny spots of blood dotted the sidewalk near the entrance. A small piece of yellow police tape was on the bar patio's front gate.

    Verdusco, 25, who used to live in Pomona, said the bar's reputation does not include shootings, fights or deaths.

    The First Street location has been a bar at least 45 years and has been called Characters since the 1980s, said David Juarez, a co-owner.

    He said the hangout is frequented by all types of people, including college students, off-duty police officers and firefighters, attorneys and schoolteachers.

    Employees working Tuesday night never had seen the two suspects before they walked in.

    "The suspects had never been into our establishment before," Juarez said.

    Juarez called Characters a neighborhood bar similar to the one on the TV show "Cheers." He said customers began calling him at the crack of dawn Wednesday, concerned that Juarez or other regulars were among the victims.

    In at least 20 years, the only incident he could recall was a shooting in the parking lot two years ago. The people involved in were not connected to the bar, Juarez said.

    "It's a terrible thing that happened," he said. "But it would be very wrong for the public to think that that's the kind of people we have as customers."

    Jim Eurton, who works at 2nd Time Around Antiques on East Second Street, next door to the bar, said he was shocked two people were shot dead.

    "I've never seen a problem," said Eurton, who has worked at the antiques store for nearly a decade.

    He was at the bar Tuesday until 6 p.m. and did not notice anything suspicious, he said. A woman who entered the antiques store described the incident as not characteristic of the bar.

    "Out of character, that's right," Eurton said.

    Baker said police have interviewed more than a dozen witnesses who were at the bar after the shooting.

    "It's going to take some time to sift through the information you get out of more than a dozen interviews. Put yourself in a bar with 14 different people and something happens. You have to hear what everyone has to say," he said of the investigation.

    Baker added he did not know if the case was gang-related or how long the suspects were in the bar Tuesday night. The shooting took place in the south end of the bar, near the restrooms, he said.

    The case was not related to the Monday night shooting death of Scotty Lee Howard, 53, of Pomona in the 1300 block of East Pasadena Street, Baker said.

    He did not have an explanation for the recent slayings.

    "There's nothing that you can possibly look at that would explain why you have three deaths within 24 hours," Baker said. "It's a series of circumstances that come together about the same time on the clock that don't have anything to do with each other. I mean, we've had almost five weeks where we didn't have a homicide. How do you explain that?"

    Anyone with information on the cases may call Pomona police at (909) 620-2095. Callers may remain anonymous at WeTip, (800) 78-CRIME.

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    Slain man part of Mexican Mafia
    Buelna one of two victims in tavern shooting
    By Neil Nisperos, Staff Writer
    Article Launched: 11/16/2007 12:00:00 AM PST

    POMONA - Frankie Buelna, identified by authorities as a member of the Mexican Mafia, was one of the two people killed this week in a shooting at a sports bar.

    The 61-year-old Pomona resident was believed to have broad influence in the organization throughout the region.

    Buelna was arrested last year as part of a major gang sweep conducted in the city. The dragnet was in response to and coincided with the anniversary of the killing of California Highway Patrol Officer Thomas J. Steiner by a 16-year-old would-be gang member in 2004.

    Buelna was picked up for a parole violation and released from prison sometime later, Pomona police Sgt. Rick Baker said.

    Baker said Buelna was a known member of the Mexican Mafia, a powerful criminal organization known for drug trafficking.

    He was last convicted in 2003 for carrying a dagger, for which he served two years and eight months in prison, according to Department of Corrections records. He was released on parole in April 2005 and returned to prison twice in 2006 for two separate parole violations. He last was released from custody in February.

    It was unclear Thursday what the violations were in 2006 that caused Buelna to go back to prison.

    Buelna's past convictions included robbery and assault with a deadly weapon, according to corrections records.

    Police Lt. Paul Hitt said he had known Buelna for many years.

    "We referred to him as 'Frankie B,'" Hitt said.

    Their conversations were always pretty vague.

    "He would tell me what he was doing at the time," Hitt said.

    Buelna was only average in height and not the smartest guy on the street, but Hitt said he knew how to take care of himself.

    "I would say that he was a pretty tough guy," he said.

    A female employee at Characters Sports Bar, where the shootings occurred about 9:30 p.m. Tuesday, remembered Buelna on Thursday as well-mannered.

    Police said two unidentified men got into a fight with Buelna and Enrique Sanchez, 26, of Chino, who also was killed in the shooting. One of the unidentified men pulled out a gun.

    The woman, who declined to reveal her name because of possible retaliation, said she spoke with Buelna before the shooting but wasn't there when the incident occurred.

    He always wore nice suits and treated everyone with respect, she said. She did not know about any gang connections.

    The shooting happened during an argument among four people. Police were searching for the other two men. Police would not speculate about the motive for the shootings.

    Sanchez was not a gang member, said Nancy Verdusco, who has a 5-year-old son with Sanchez.

    Verdusco said that Sanchez was at the bar with a female friend, not Buelna. She said she did not know of him until the killings.

    "That man had never before been mentioned until that night," Verdusco said.

    A Rialto man also was hit by the gunfire at the tavern. Shot in the upper body, he was released from a hospital Thursday, Baker said.

    Anyone with information on the shooting is asked to call Pomona police at (909) 620-2095. Callers may remain anonymous at WeTip, (800) 78-CRIME.

    Staff writers Mark Petix and Wes Woods II contributed to this report.

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    Culturism

    Shooting is not normal for this bar, characters. It is not normal for Pomona. It is not normal for America. But there is no reason it can't be. Diversity is real. Tribal societies were very violent. Males being violent and defending their turf, selling drugs and being "macho." Is not abnormal. If we do not want such behaviors to be widespread, we need to practice culturism. That is we need to define, protect and promote our culture.

    The easiest and most immediate culturist step we can take is shut down the borders. That is not a racist statement, it is a culturist statement. It recognizes diversity. The Mexican culture is more violent, into drinking and abusive towards women than ours. That is not racist, it is not even specualtion it is a scientific fact. Racism is stupid, culturism is a necessary science.

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    The Mexican culture is more violent, into drinking and abusive towards women than ours. That is not racist, it is not even specualtion it is a scientific fact. Racism is stupid, culturism is a necessary science.
    Very well said. Welcome to ALIPAC, Culturalist.
    Calderon was absolutely right when he said...."Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico".

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