Thread: DACA, DACA, Bo-Baca . . .

DACA, DACA, Bo-Baca . . .

by Mark Krikorian January 5, 2018 4:00 AM

The prospects of an amnesty deal are fading. President Trump met Thursday with Senate Republicans about a possible deal on the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, President Obama’s lawless pen-and-phone amnesty that gave two-year renewable work permits to certain illegal aliens who arrived before age 16.

There are about 700,000 of them, and the six-month grace period that President Trump gave them after canceling the program in September is fast running out. There are three clusters of issues at play here. DACA or Dream? First, what is the universe of people being considered for an amnesty? As I’ve noted here previously, there’s a tendency — inadvertent in some, intentional in others — to conflate the DACA population of perhaps 700,000 illegal aliens who have Obama work permits with the much larger group of “Dreamers,” which, depending on the bill, could add up to more than 3 million people.

The point of such conflation by those who know what they’re doing is to use the smaller DACA group as a wedge to sneak through a multimillion-person amnesty. Just this week, three former DHS secretaries under Bush and Obama (Chertoff, Napolitano, and Johnson) contributed to this strategy by publishing a pro-amnesty open letter that uses “Dream” and “DACA” synonymously. Green Cards or Work Permits?

The second issue is what kind of amnesty would the DACA people (or Dreamers) get? Would they simply have their current status formalized, so that they have work permits but are not formal permanent residents on track for citizenship? Or would they eventually be upgraded to regular permanent residency — green-card status? This matters, because some politicians try to pretend that whatever amnesty they’re pitching at the time isn’t really an amnesty if it doesn’t result in green cards (and eventual access to citizenship and voting).

A work-permit amnesty would be a mistake for two reasons. Trying to deny that it’s an amnesty should fool no one. Ever since this tactic was widely deployed during the Bush-McCain-Kennedy amnesty push over a decade ago, anyone with a scintilla of political awareness knows that a politician who says “This isn’t an amnesty” is actually pushing an amnesty.

Anything that lets an illegal alien stay legally is an amnesty, and we might as well just admit it. Furthermore, permanent work-visa status is politically unsustainable. GOP pols who think they can square the circle by amnestying the DACA beneficiaries but not letting them become citizens (and thus vote Democratic) will be in for a rude surprise. The Democrats might agree to that as a stopgap, to get their constituents on firmer legal ground. But they would immediately launch a campaign to end the “Jim Crow immigration regime,” and in a few years Congress would just convert the legalized DACA population to green-card holders anyway.

The only way a non-citizenship amnesty could make sense is as a conditional status that would be converted to permanent residency once the enforcement and legal-immigration components of a DACA amnesty bill were fully implemented. How to Balance the Amnesty? Which brings us to the final question — what measures would be packaged with a DACA amnesty? This is where most of the attention has been focused, but it’s been framed inaccurately as a simple matter of legislative horse-trading: Each party has things it desires, so let’s make a deal.

The Dreamer activists see it this way too, objecting to being used as “bargaining chips.” But this isn’t mere legislative horse-trading. The measures being discussed are necessary to limit the fallout of any deal. All amnesties have two effects: They incentivize additional illegal immigration (as prospective illegals abroad see that their predecessors managed to get away with it) and they create downstream chain migration (when the legalized aliens eventually sponsor their relatives).

Thus the need for any DACA deal to include enforcement measures (like E-Verify and/or the wall), to blunt the surge of illegal immigration caused by amnesty, and the abolition of the family-immigration categories that lead to chain migration (i.e., limit family immigration to the core nuclear family of spouses and minor children). The polling on this is strong. Most of the advocacy groups and their media mouthpieces point to surveys showing broad support for the idea of letting DACA people stay, and I’m sure that’s correct.

But any survey that has Luis Gutierrez and me giving the same answer is asking the wrong question. That’s why it’s good that Numbers USA released polling this week that assumed a DACA amnesty, but asked what measures should be packaged with it. By about two to one, respondents supported an E-Verify mandate and ending chain migration (and ending the visa lottery as well). The president has been quite consistent, both on Twitter and in real life, that a DACA amnesty must include offsets to limit the damage.

Here’s a tweet from December 29: “The Democrats have been told, and fully understand, that there can be no DACA without the desperately needed WALL at the Southern Border and an END to the horrible Chain Migration & ridiculous Lottery System of Immigration etc. We must protect our Country at all cost!”

I think mandatory use of E-Verify for new hires is a much more important tool for blunting the post-amnesty surge of illegal immigration, but the president is set on his wall. In fact, the wall looms so large in the president’s thinking that the Democrats could probably “buy” amnesty for the DACA people and the Dreamers and who knows how many other illegals if they just gave him his wall, without even making any concessions on chain migration or anything else. But their deranged hatred for the president and all his works means they just can’t give him his wall, or make any meaningful concessions on DACA beyond some extra non-wall border funding. Can you imagine the danger — the real, physical danger — Schumer and Pelosi would be in if they agreed to fund anything the president could plausibly describe as a border wall?

This is why I’m increasingly of the opinion that there isn’t going to be any DACA deal. Despite the eagerness of such Republicans as Senators Thom Tillis (N.C.) and Lindsey Graham (S.C.) to sell out to the Democrats, the Left’s maximalist demands will likely doom this effort.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...prospects-fade

TPS is Amnesty
Deferred Action is Amnesty
Unaccompanied Minor Children is Amnesty
Asylum is Amnesty
DACA is Amnesty
Dreamer bill is Amnesty
DAPA is Amnesty

It's all amnesty with or without a pathway to citizenship. Being allowed to stay for any time for any reason when you have no documents is ... amnesty. Amnesty for violations of law when the laws are existing and continuing in effect is unconstitutional.

NO DACA DEAL.

NO DACA AMNESTY.

NONE. NADA. ZERO. ZIP.

Find 'em ALL and ship ' em ALL out of here, pronto.

Well, Mark Krikorian certainly hasn't helped to stop any DACA deal with his nonsense trade talk. Let's just give the DACA amnesty in return for a few promises of things we want to curb illegal immigration and protect Americans. What began as a limited amnesty three decades ago didn't work out to well for us. The Secure Fence Act of 2006 hasn't come to reality. Those who believe this amnesty would be it are delusional. This would be another foot in the amnesty door and a springboard to the next larger one for the illegal alien relatives left crying in the shadows.

Democrats want one thing...Voters. Obama flooded the nation with foreign citizens through legal and illegal immigration and refugee resettlement to get as many future democrat voters. Democrat voters turn red states blue, love regulations, threaten gun rights, back socialized medicine, death panels, undo the good that may get done in the next few years.

No DACA.

Mark Krikorian stirred this whole DACA thing up, he's the one who started having interviews with left wing publications claiming Trump had broken his promise, that's where that meme started, and all the while he was going to the White House meeting with White House officials laying out this STUPID ETERNALLY DUMB DACA DEAL. FAIR did the same thing. So while you have two of these "immigration hawks" orgies calling for a DEAL, some of the evangelicals are hounding the President to let the DACA's stay, and of course the cheap labor traitors in Congress and those on the take with the drug cartels are conspiring and introducing Dreamer Bills .... that's a lot of pressure while trying to do everything else he wants to do to fix other aspects of our country while all at the same time dealing with the oh good lord, RUSSIAN HOAX investigation and DemoQuacki Impeachment Bills. Meanwhile STEVE BANNON was playing Et Tu Brutus behind the scenes stabbing him in the back at every turn.

So I hope and pray he gets our message that Americans DO NOT WANT an eternally DUMB DACA DEAL. We want these people and every other illegal alien deported and removed from our country on the fastest track humanly possible.

We've had it with this crap, we want our country back, our jobs back, our companies back, our government back, our politicians back with everyone working towards the same goal, to Make America Great Again for the benefit of its citizens and our employers.