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    The actual number of illegal aliens appears to be far larger than previously understo

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    The actual number of illegal aliens appears to be far larger than previously understood


    The most common number offered by our media for the number of people living here illegally seems to be about 12 million. Factcheck.org, published by the Annenberg Public Policy Center, purporting to be a neutral and objective source, cites DHS estimates as well as NGOs:

    There were 12.1 million immigrants [sic] living in the country illegally as of January 2014, according to the most recent estimate from the Department of Homeland Security. The estimates from two independent groups are similar: The Pew Research Center estimates the number at 11.1 million in 2014, and the Center for Migration Studies says there were 11 million people in 2015 living in the U.S. illegally (see Table 1 in the full report).


    That would be about 3.5 percent to 3.8 percent of the total U.S. population in 2014.



    To be fair, measuring illegal activity is inherently difficult. But the striking thing is that these established authoritative sources pretty much agree on the ballpark. Normally, that establishes a high level of confidence.

    But then, how do we square 12 million with the newly released data from the Immigration Reform Law Institute? Paul Bedard writes in the Washington Examiner:

    Nearly 40 million Social Security numbers have been stolen and used by illegal immigrants [sic] and others to get work, according to agency records obtained by an immigration reform group.


    The Immigration Reform Law Institute said that from 2012 to 2016 there were "39 million instances where names and Social Security numbers on W-2 tax forms did not match the corresponding Social Security records."


    The group said that there is a "thriving black market" used by illegal immigrants [sic] to get Social Security numbers needed to get a job.

    Let's allow that a percentage of the stolen numbers were not used by illegals, but how big would that be? Ten percent? Who else has a need for a stolen identity? Well, there are those sleeper agents for foreign powers, like the starring couple in the TV series The Americans, Russians who were trained to pose as ordinary Americans. But there can't be millions of them. I suppose that there are con men and con women exploiting phony identities, but again, how many millions of them can there possibly be?


    Being generous to the other groups, there must be at least thirty million illegal aliens using stolen Social Security numbers. How could 12 million illegals account for 30 million stolen identities in the period of 34 years?


    Some illegals do end up using more than one number because:

    "The Social Security numbers of young children are especially sought by illegal aliens, as this theft is likely to go undetected for years. As children reach late teenage years and apply for credit for cars, student loans, and other needs, they may find that their credit has been compromised with mortgages, credit cards and criminal records attached to their identities," said the group.

    But four years is not enough time for such "replacement" numbers to be needed, and the nearly 40 million numbers all appeared in that short time frame.


    One thing that we do know: The Obama administration had no interest at all in discovering the magnitude of the problem:

    Their report draws attention to a move by former President Barack Obama to stop sending so-called "no match" letters to employers notifying them that numbers used by employees on the wage forms do not match their identity.


    The change followed the president's decision to approve amnesty for some 700,000 younger immigrants [sic] let into the U.S. under his Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. Some of those have been dubbed "dreamers."

    Finding out how many people are here illegally is the most basic, necessary step in restoring the rule of law. My guess is that the number is shockingly higher than the estimates FactCheck.org wants us to accept.

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    Duh. There were 20 million or more in 2005 according to Bear Stearns, and they've been pouring in every year since. There's well over 30 million illegal aliens in the United States plus their "anchor babies". It's a nightmare from hell. 10% of our entire population is illegal. That's 1 in 10. You walk through the store, and for every 10 people you see, there is an illegal alien among them. For every 10 cars you see on an interstate or busy street, 1 is an illegal alien. There's almost as many illegal aliens in the United States as there are black Americans. If you count all the ones Reagan Amnestied and Clinton Amnestied and Obama Amnestied moving them to Green Cards, there are far more illegal aliens in the United States than black Americans.
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    And virtually all of them are utilizing our tax dollars for the births, medical care, education , and feeding of their U.S born children. Many, many of them work as "independent contractors", and get 1099's instead of W-2's so that no taxes are taken out of their checks. The costs to the American people are staggering.
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    Right O, Hattiecat. We've been lied to about the numbers, but some of us figured it out long ago. Nice to see some articles addressing this terrible deception leading Americans to believe there are 11 million when there's 3 times that number. Disgusting.
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    That would be about 3.5 percent to 3.8 percent of the total U.S. population in 2014.

    We would be lucky if it is not ten percent. We have a construction boom here in this city and they are everywhere, and considering how strong the US real estate market has been thirty million (at least including their low skilled offspring) would seem more reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainron View Post
    That would be about 3.5 percent to 3.8 percent of the total U.S. population in 2014.

    We would be lucky if it is not ten percent. We have a construction boom here in this city and they are everywhere, and considering how strong the US real estate market has been thirty million (at least including their low skilled offspring) would seem more reasonable.
    Oh it's at least 10%. There's over 30 million of them plus their "anchor babies".
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    CUT OFF ALL FREEBIES!

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    No path to stay!
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