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    After Minuteman Melee, Protesters Have New Beef

    After Minuteman Melee, Protesters Have New Beef
    The man who drove his van into demonstrators outside an event in Garden Grove won't be charged. One activist says that's unfair.

    By Jennifer Delson and Mai Tran, Times Staff Writers


    An activist opposing illegal immigration who drove his van into a crowd of protesters in Garden Grove will not be charged, police said Thursday, prompting anger from detractors.

    A van driven by Hal Netkin hit several people protesting an appearance Wednesday night by James Gilchrist, whose Minuteman citizen patrol last month monitored the Mexican border in Arizona for illegal crossers.

    Netkin, 69, is a former secession candidate for City Council in the San Fernando Valley whose websites oppose illegal immigration and the proliferation of Mexican government-issued identification cards.

    Netkin was released after police watched a videotape that showed protesters surrounding the vehicle, banging on it and refusing to move, said Garden Grove Police Lt. Mike Handfield. About 300 protesters at the scene were "trying to intimidate him and refused to let him pass," Handfield said. By night's end, five demonstrators had been arrested.
    Gilchrist, an Aliso Viejo resident, and his opponents agreed the melee could portend more confrontations between activists as the issue heats up, with the number of citizen groups and radio talk-show hosts opposing illegal immigration growing nationwide. Gilchrist, a hero among like-minded activists, plans several speaking engagements in the coming months, including an appearance at a Las Vegas conference this weekend.

    That conference is expected to draw prominent opponents of illegal immigration, such as Rep. Thomas G. Tancredo (R-Colo.) and Barbara Coe, one of the authors of Proposition 187, a 1994 California ballot measure that denied many public benefits to illegal immigrants but was overturned by a federal court.

    Gilchrist is recruiting for other citizen patrols, including one at the California-Mexico border, and for a campaign that he says will target tax evaders.

    James Lafferty, director of the National Lawyers Guild in Los Angeles, said he was among those struck by Netkin's van. He said staging protests at Gilchrist's events was necessary, even if it increased his profile.

    "I'm glad there were people there saying something [Wednesday night]. We need to have this debate," said Lafferty, who said he was not injured. "We can't just stand and watch this."

    Protesters said they arrived at the Garden Grove Women's Club about 6:30 p.m. after receiving an e-mail saying Gilchrist was to speak to the California Coalition for Immigration Reform, which presented him with a trophy for his border campaign.

    Police said the sign-waving protest began calmly but grew agitated when Netkin tried to enter the parking lot. In addition to surrounding his vehicle, protesters broke the window of another vehicle, Handfield said. The protesters blocked the entrance and tossed soda cans and cans packed with marbles at police and attendees, Handfield said. They kicked, banged and threw rocks at cars; some wore latex gloves and hoods so they wouldn't be identified by police, Handfield said. Some attendees decided not to enter the building because they feared violence.Some of the protesters paid $5 for admission to the event and alerted protesters outside when attendees were leaving the building.

    Arrested were Fernando Chirino, 23, of Irvine; Kurt Isobe, 18, of Laguna Beach; Juan Obed Silva, 26, of Buena Park; Shane Sparks, 21, of Altadena; and Sarmiento Valid, 24, of Los Angeles. They face various charges, including assault with a deadly weapon and misdemeanor disorderly conduct, Handfield said.Lafferty said the arrests were unfair.

    "What's sticking in the craw of the protesters is that they would quickly let a man go without even charging him, whereas the students and protesters for much less serious matters were charged and there is no proof, as far as I can tell, that they did anything anyway," Lafferty said.

    Hamid Kahn, executive director of the South Asian Network, a nonprofit advocacy organization, brought half a dozen people to the protest.

    He said his group would continue to monitor Gilchrist's public appearances.

    Gilchrist and his followers "are mainstreaming hate," Kahn said. "They are creating and disseminating a message of hate. They put these messages into the public and harass and intimidate people.

    "This movement is gaining national momentum, and we need to build solidarity," Kahn added.
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    Is there any way to find out if these people have previous "arrest records" or have been affiliated with other organizations?
    Arrested were Fernando Chirino, 23, of Irvine; Kurt Isobe, 18, of Laguna Beach; Juan Obed Silva, 26, of Buena Park; Shane Sparks, 21, of Altadena; and Sarmiento Valid, 24, of Los Angeles. They face various charges, including assault with a deadly weapon and misdemeanor disorderly conduct, Handfield said
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    Re: After Minuteman Melee, Protesters Have New Beef

    James Lafferty, director of the National Lawyers Guild in Los Angeles, said he was among those struck by Netkin's van. He said staging protests at Gilchrist's events was necessary, even if it increased his profile.

    "I'm glad there were people there saying something [Wednesday night]. We need to have this debate," said Lafferty, who said he was not injured. "We can't just stand and watch this."
    Well, well......I've been waitin' for you sleazy dogs to surface!!

    Hello......OBL!!

    GOTCHA!!


    EVERYONE....check my article I posted back in April on "Open Borders Lobby Ford Foundation"....and you'll find the prominently listed National Lawyers Guild as one of the active and documented members of the Open Borders Lobby....forever dedicated to the END of the United States. These people are Traitors pursuing an agenda of Open Borders that will dissolve the sovereign territory of the United States and END our Nation as it combines with Canada and Mexico.

    These people MUST BE EXPOSED AND STOPPED!!

    GET TROOPS TO THE BORDER NOW!!
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    You have to wonder

    Are there any decent attorneys left in this country that have not become corrupted?

    We are not only fighting against illegal immigration, but also the GREED of the politicians, big business and attorneys!

    I would sincerely like to think that there are still some ethical attorneys out there that know what is in store for ALL of us if this continues! No one will be safe. No matter how much money you have, NO one will be able to sheild themselves from the impact. Their greed will hurt not only themselves in the end, but their families as well. Their childrens health, education and very future are threatened just as our children's are.

    How can these people look their children in the eyes and tell them they love them when they are destroying their future! Talk about heartless!
    I cannot even begin to fathom this.
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    "What's sticking in the craw of the protesters is that they would quickly let a man go without even charging him, whereas the students and protesters for much less serious matters were charged and there is no proof, as far as I can tell, that they did anything anyway," Lafferty said.
    Breaking car windows and denting cars with your fist would qualify as "serious matters" to me. What do you expect from a bunch of criminals?
    The only thing important about this nitwit Lafferty is that he is a major league jackass.
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    "The only important thing about this nitwit Lafferty is that he is a major league jackass" and

    Executive Director of the Regional Office of National Lawyers Guild in Los Angeles!!

    And word is the National Lawyers Guild is communist inspired.

    This guy and his organization which is a national organization with regional offices in almost every major city of the United States is anti-American, pro-Alien, and working towards the END of the United States using his "license" to practice law to accomplish that.

    As you know, attorneys are "licensed" is spew two Truths, when there is in fact only One.

    I'm very glad he surfaced. Foolish on his part, really, because now we have all these nice quotes for the file when we start rounding up all the "aiders and abetters" of the grandest Illegal Labor Market Manipulation Scheme in the history of the United States.

    According to Harvard University, the damages start at $50 Billion A YEAR.

    That' s a nice size lawsuit, eh?

    GET TROOPS TO THE BORDERS NOW!!!

    GET THESE ECONOMIC TERRORISTS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY!!!

    GET THEIR AIDERS AND ABETTERS INTO COURT, GET THEIR MONEY UNDER RICO, THEN WALK THEM TO THEIR CELL IN JAIL AND THROW AWAY THE KEY!!!

    Does anyone have a problem with that strategy??

    If so, please post it.

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    Are there any decent attorneys left in this country that have not become corrupted?
    There is a best selling book out from long ago written by a lawyer.

    The name of it is (appropriately) Lawyers and other Lizards. It was on the best seller list for a long time! Go figure!

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    what is so bad is we keep sending them to Raleigh and DC to represent us. It is time to send Joe every day citizen to represent us. It will be the only way to get common sense back in Government.
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    what is so bad is we keep sending them to Raleigh and DC to represent us. It is time to send Joe every day citizen to represent us. It will be the only way to get common sense back in Government.
    One thing we can all remember is that these parties depend on our donations. We can flat out refuse to give and TELL THEM WHY.

    When the cash stops flowing, changes will happen. And they are going to.

    When the votes stop happening and they WILL, they will be forced to change. They'll have to.

    Write every member of Congress in every State. Every member of HoR, in every State. DEMAND change of the illegal immigrant (economic terrorist) issue. Tell tem no more votes, no more funds. Period.

    Tell them flat out, no ifs, ands, or buts that the well has run dry until they do something about it. Votes and funds.
    See what happens.

    The "BIG" donators help them alot. But its the everyday guys like us who they depend on to pay their everyday bills. When those funds dry up (and they are even as we speak) change will come. It will have to.

    We are a team and a team who sticks together through thick and thin will win every time. I know. I've been a member of many teams who won many, many times. More often than not. And as long as you win with honor, your really, really win!

    We can do the same with MSM. Tell them we flat out refuse to watch the news anymore. We can get it online. We refuse to buy anything from anyone who sponsors any newshow uhless it's Lou, O'Reilly, etc. Tell them we want real news, not their crappy rhetoric. Who knows? It might work. It's worked before. Then we have to stick to our guns. An empty threat is just that. And I hate being threatened. Show me the money, or lack thereof to coin a phrase.

    What counts is not necessarily the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. -Dwight D. Eisenhower

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