Thread: ALIPAC: NC House panel OKs bill to ban Mexican ID

By Ray Gronberg
Durham Herald Sun

March 24, 2011



DURHAM -- A state House panel on Wednesday endorsed and sent to the floor a bill that would bar Durham and other communities from accepting as valid ID the Mexican government's matricula consular.

The draft bill recommended by part of the House Judiciary Committee was rewritten since its introduction. It now would extend the ban to similar documents issued by the consulate of any foreign country.

It also would strike from state law provisions that have allowed the N.C. Division of Motor Vehicles, private car insurers and Medicaid recipients to recognize or use the matricula.

The bill cleared the judiciary panel on a 7-4 vote, with the opposing votes cast by state Reps. Larry Hall, D-Durham, and Bill Faison, D-Orange, among others.

Faison made it clear he regards the bill as a political stunt, one he predicted Wednesday will generate "a lot of unintended adverse consequences."

"There is not a single state agency in here saying we have a problem," noting the absence of support for the bill even from groups like the N.C. Sheriff's Association. "This is simply a hot-topic item that ultimately is a bad idea."

Hall added that the bill establishes for foreigners living in this state "an additional standard" for proving their identity that's "not even used by us in other countries," meaning it's higher than U.S. citizens are asked to meet when they're abroad.

But the majority sided with anti-immigration activists who were present, among them William Gheen, president of a group called Americans for Legal Immigration.

Gheen alleged that the matricula is a "worthless ID" not widely accepted in Mexico and said legislators have to strike a blow against illegal immigration.

"The Mexican government is here to represent their interests against the interests of American citizens, because they receive a large influx into their economy from remittances sent back to Mexico," he said. "They've sent some of their poorest elements north, they've sent some of their criminal elements north. They have vested interests in those people remaining, at a time when they are leaving in historic numbers because of the bad economy and because of increased tightening of security at the state level."

Gheen was alluding to the presence at the hearing of Carlos Flores-Vizcarra, the Mexico's consul general for the Carolinas.

Flores-Vizcarra told legislators, contrary to Gheen's claims, that the matricula is "recognized within Mexico by Mexican law" and is accepted for banking transactions and other uses.

Before the final vote committee members turned aside an amendment offered by Rep. Darren Jackson, D-Wake, that would have allowed insurance companies to continue accepting the matricula.

The amendment picked up support from Rep. Chuck McGrady, R-Henderson, who said he thought it a benefit to "public health" to make it easy for people to identify themselves for purposes of obtaining car insurance.

But one of the bill's two chief sponsors, Rep. George Cleveland, R-Onslow, said he was against the amendment. He made it clear he doubts illegal immigrants care much about insurance.

From what constituents say, "an illegal will go out, and get his insurance, he'll get his card, he'll cancel his insurance, doesn't care if his license expires and he keeps on driving," Cleveland said. "I do not see where this amendment will solve that problem."

Cleveland before the hearing conferred with Gheen and several other anti-immigration activists who were present.

Gheen traveled to Durham last November to attend the City Council meeting where local leaders endorsed the Durham Police Department's practice of accepting the matricula.

He and other activists staged a noisy walkout when Mayor Bill Bell ruled that the council would hear comment on the policy only from Durham residents.

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DURHAM -- A state House panel on Wednesday endorsed and sent to the floor a bill that would bar Durham and other communities from accepting as valid ID the Mexican government's matricula consular.

North Carolina and Ohio is two States will not be stolen by illegal voting!!

Hall added that the bill establishes for foreigners living in this state "an additional standard" for proving their identity that's "not even used by us in other countries," meaning it's higher than U.S. citizens are asked to meet when they're abroad.

Not true. If I were to travel to Mexico - not that I would, under any circumstances - I would be required to carry my passport at all times and produce it upon request by a law enforcement officer.

Awesome news!! Unfortunately, it appears that the traitors in office in Illinois, NY, Florida and California have lost their rabid minds.

Congratulations W!!!

He and other activists staged a noisy walkout when Mayor Bill Bell ruled that the council would hear comment on the policy only from Durham residents

What these people do not realize is that what ever they do to help illegals effects all of us and not just that community or state. I would be noisy too!

Whooooo Hoooooo!! Great news!

And it is now time to give the Mexican Consolates the big size 13 BOOT outta here.

Identity theft unfortunately is also tied directly to anchor babies among illegal aliens.

Here's how it works:

1. Illegal aliens have anchor babies.

2. Illegal aliens register their anchor babies with the Social Security Administration immediately after birth.

3. Illegal aliens then use the new anchor baby social security number(s) to establish new identities for themselves, thus securing employment, auto loans, mortgages, and full lines of credit. THESE ARE EVEN USED FOR OBTAINING PHOTO ID, WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR VOTER REGISTRATION.

This is happening all over the US, not just in North Carolina. The government is fully aware of this. This is how many of the illegal aliens who purchased homes during the real estate bubble of the 80's and 90's were able to get by with it.

Originally Posted by TakingBackSoCal

And it is now time to give the Mexican Consolates the big size 13 BOOT outta here.

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Here are the three BRICK WALLS preventing the closure of the Mexican Green Card FACTORIES (consulates) scattered all over the United States:

FYI, the three largest enablers and sponsor of illegal aliens from Mexico in the United States are:

• THE LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT(S)

• ORGANIZED RELIGION

• PUBLIC EDUCATION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l16tPdgQ ... r_embedded

Here are some videos from the NC Committee yesterday


the mexican consular rep:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0U5XFsFBTk

State Rep Ross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcrLCNZL0Yw

Beverly Lung video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Fo6z4s8n8

James Johnson video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT1K2FP-Fv8