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    Amnesty for illegal aliens does not win votes and never has won votes

    June 16, 2013 By Rick Oltman

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is either one of the dumbest men to serve in the U.S. Senate, or just one of the most corrupt. He is either dumb, naïve, pandering or simply using as an excuse what he thinks some people will buy and thus support the Senate amnesty bill S.744. Read this statement he made on NBC’s Meet the Press,

    "If we don't pass immigration reform, if we don't get it off the table in a reasonable, practical way, it doesn't matter who you run in 2016…We're in a demographic death spiral as a party, and the only way we can get back in good graces with the Hispanic community, in my view, is pass comprehensive immigration reform. If you don't do that, it really doesn't matter who we run, in my view."

    So, Graham is in favor of the amnesty for purely political reasons? If so, he is terribly confused. Because it won't result in votes for Republicans. How can I be so sure? Because it NEVER has.

    As has been discussed and analyzed by many people, including this writer; passing an amnesty for illegal aliens, most of whom are from Mexico, will DO NOTHING to earn the Hispanic vote...period. NOTHING. ZIP, ZERO, NADA.

    Polling data of Hispanic voters does not support Graham’s statement which is, if you think about it, also an insult to Hispanic Americans. He is suggesting that the Hispanic vote can be bought by Republicans if they ignore, excuse and reward lawbreakers who happen to be Hispanic.

    A quick review:

    Let's look at who won the Hispanic vote in the past 9 presidential races and their position on enforcement and amnesty.


    • In 1980 and in 1984 Ronald Reagan received 35% and 37% of the Hispanic vote, respectively.
    • In 1986 Reagan signed the IRCA Amnesty which began in 1987 and legalized over 3 million illegal aliens, mostly from Mexico, with 12 - 15 million additional beneficiaries from chain migration.


    Hispanics were overwhelmingly beneficiaries of the amnesty.

    But…


    • In 1988, less than two years after the amnesty went into effect, George H.W. Bush who supported the IRCA as Vice President, got only 30% of the Hispanic vote, 7 points fewer than Reagan.
    • In 1992 Bush-1 saw his Hispanic vote total decline to 25%, a 12 point drop from Reagan's second election, and he lost the election to Bill Clinton.
    • In 1996, five weeks before the November election, Clinton signed the IIRIRA, the toughest immigration enforcement legislation since Eisenhower’s Operation Wetback, and Hispanics rewarded him with a staggering 71% of the vote for his re-election.
    • In 2000, George W. Bush received 35% of the Hispanic vote. Al Gore, the Vice President at the time of the 1996 IIRIRA, got 62%.
    • In 2004 George Bush, after making anti-amnesty comments, increased his Hispanic support to 40%.


    During the 2008 presidential race, Barack Obama said,

    "I will make sure that the federal government does what it’s supposed to do...a better job of closing our borders and preventing hundreds of thousands of people to pour in."


    • Obama also voted for the secure border fence bill in 2008 and still got 67% of the Hispanic vote.
    • Obama's opponent, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), was the first presidential candidate who actually advocated for and wrote an amnesty bill for illegal aliens. Senator McAmnesty got 31% of the Hispanic vote to Obama’s 67%. McCain didn't even win a majority of Hispanic votes in Arizona, where EVERYBODY KNOWS he supports amnesty.


    And, last November;


    • In 2012, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who endorsed an amnesty on Meet the Press in 2005, won only 27% of the Hispanic vote.
    • President Obama, whose Department of Homeland Security lied all year long that they deported more illegal aliens than George Bush did, won 71% of the Hispanic vote.


    Now, in light of these FACTS does Lindsey Graham actually believe his words or is he simply corrupt, hoping that he will get enough of a payoff from the Chamber of Commerce Clan that he'll be able to defeat a Republican primary opponent next year and win the general election? You be the judge.

    But, don’t believe for a minute that an amnesty will get the Republicans votes.

    As Pat Buchanan eloquently points out in his latest piece, The Bell Tolls for the ‘New Majority’;

    "So what are the Republicans doing?

    Going back on their word, dishonoring their platform, and enraging their loyal supporters, who gave Mitt 90 percent
    of his votes, to pander to a segment of the electorate that gave Mitt less than 5 percent of his total votes.


    Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.”


    It has been proven over and over and over again that amnesty, or talk of an amnesty, doesn’t translate into votes for Republicans. So, what is Sen. Graham talking about?

    Or, is he just mad?

    http://www.examiner.com/article/amne...-has-won-votes
    Last edited by Finnian; 06-16-2013 at 11:13 PM.

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    only way we can get back in good graces with the Hispanic community, in my view, is pass comprehensive immigration reform.
    This is pitiful, looking for votes from people who shouldn't even be here in the first place.
    If these politician were working for legal citizens they paid and elected to represent;
    They wouldn't have to worry, If they had been doing their job. Just shows you how slimmy politicians have become.
    looking for votes from foreign nationals.
    Anyone who votes for this bill is voting to take away Americans jobs plain and simple and lowering Americans standard of living.
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