Thread: Another one bites the Dust!! TED CRUZ = AMNESTY

I KNOW you're all desperate to BELIEVE in SOMEONE! Me too! But aren't you tired of being conned??? There ARE decent people out there to support, but you can't as long as you won't let go of the LIARS!

Several years ago, we who want enforcement of our immigration laws, came to a conclusion.
ANY politician who says "Secure the border FIRST" was full of, excuse me, CRAP and means to have all the illegals stay here. THAT IS AMNESTY!!!
Ted Cruz: " I hope that this body will adopt the amendment I've introduced to provide real border security and to ensure that border security occurs first before legalization."

Oh, yes, yes, he says OVER and OVER that he's against AMNESTY! He even has a petition for us to sign AGAINST AMNESTY...but it doesn't say ONE WORD about NOT legalizing them.

• Whereas, our nation’s immigration system is broken and must be fixed.
• Whereas, any immigration reform must lead with real border security first.
• Whereas, the Gang of Eight’s bill does not secure the border and gives amnesty to those here illegally.
• Whereas, legal immigration should be supported and encouraged.
• Resolved, I request the House of Representatives reject the Gang of Eight’s bill and instead pass legislation that actually secures our border.

In the past few days, Cruz has even gone so far as to admit he wants MORE legal immigrant workers!

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally.... he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.


“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.
Cruz said recent polling indicated that people outside Washington support some reform, including legal status without citizenship......Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000. He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country.

HE IS LYING! Mexico sends more LEGAL immigrants than any other country!!! WHAT is he talking about???!!
NO objective polls of US citizens concludes we want aliens to have LEGAL STATUS! Just the opposite...we want them DEPORTED!
Rueters/Ipsos POLL:
30 percent of those polled think that “most illegal immigrants, with some exceptions, should be deported”, while 23 percent believe all illegal immigrants should be deported.
Only 5 percent believe all illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the United States legally, and 31 percent want most illegal immigrants to stay.

Aren't you GOP apologists TIRED of being conned? Aren't you tired of propping these con men up??? I'm still looking for anything where he's ever said the obvious...ENFORCE THE LAW!!!
But, THAT would include deportation, wouldn't it???

A good GOP lemming read the above WORDS of CRUZ and told me, "No, no he didn't say that, it's a lie!"
Then WHY isn't he objecting! Either Sen. Cruz doesn't understand the meaning of Amnesty or he's a CON MAN! YOU decide, but use some facts to do it for a change!
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/20...z-amnesty.html

I think we had our suspicions, now its confirmed Ted Cruz is part of OBL. right now, our fight is with Congress, not the Senate. We'll deal with Ted Cruz later.................

On Immigration, Cruz Aims for Middle Ground

• by Julián Aguilar and Jay Root
• September 13, 2013
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Enlarge photo by: Doug Young
Senator Ted Cruz held a press conference at the Anzalduas International Bridge in Mission surrounded by a group of local ranchers who told the senator they have been impacted by poor border security.

When it comes to immigration reform, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz has made it abundantly clear what he opposes: giving citizenship to people who broke the law to come here.
What has not been as evident is what he supports: legal status for millions of people here already, while making it easier for immigrants to come here through the front door.
“I have said many times that I want to see common-sense immigration reform pass,” he said. “I think most Americans want to see the problem fixed.”

But for Cruz, a Tea Party favorite who represents a state with rapidly changing demographics, finding common ground will not be easy. Many of the bedrock Tea Party supporters who helped elect him are immigration hard-liners who object to even the slightest nod toward amnesty, a loaded word that generally means providing an avenue for legal residency to people who entered the United States illegally. Such conservatives tend to favor mass deportation, or “self-deportation,” for the millions of undocumented immigrants.

On the other hand, Hispanics in Texas are projected to eclipse the white population sometime in the next decade, and Cruz cannot afford to alienate large numbers of Latino voters with a strident anti-immigrant tone and a hard-line legislative approach. Major business interests also are supporting a path to citizenship.
What Cruz has tried to articulate in both word and deed is a middle ground. It got no support from Democrats in Washington, but it goes further than many on the far right want to go by offering leniency to undocumented immigrants here already: A path to legal status, but not to citizenship. A green card with no right to naturalization.
Immigration-reform legislation from the Senate’s so-called Gang of Eight passed that chamber in June and includes a 13-year path to citizenship. Cruz pushed unsuccessfully for amendments that would have, among other things, eliminated the citizenship component.
Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.
“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.
Cruz said recent polling indicated that people outside Washington support some reform, including legal status without citizenship. He said he was against naturalization because it rewarded lawbreakers and was unfair to legal immigrants. It also perpetuates illegal crossings, he added.
Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000. He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country.
Cruz said the Obama administration and partisan Democrats would not yield on the citizenship requirement, which they know would kill the entire effort because of a lack of support in the House. The result, he said, will be a future campaign tool by which Democrats can blame Republicans for failing to overhaul immigration.
“If your objective is actually to pass a bill insisting on a path to citizenship, it is in both intent and effect a poison pill,” he said, adding that he thinks many of the immigration groups working on the issue are “being taken advantage of.”
Democrats say that Cruz is not in line with what most Americans favor.
“The majority of Americans support a path to earned citizenship for people who have long been part of our communities — pass a background check, pay a fee and pledge allegiance to our flag,” said U.S. Rep. Pete Gallego, D-Alpine. “With so many people and groups in favor of immigration reform, common sense would dictate that those blocking reform are the ones out of the mainstream.”
Cruz has said the stalemate is denying help to farmers and ranchers who “have a real need for labor resources.”
On that score, he finds himself out of step with hard-liners who do not believe immigrant laborers are needed.
Ira Mehlman, a national spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which advocates increased border security and limited immigration, opposes expanding the pool of legal workers the way Cruz proposes. And citizenship or not, he added, legal status still means immigrants take resources from citizens already here.
"We’re also opposed to the expansion of guest-worker programs,” he said. “There is no evidence of a worker shortage."
Instead the group wants tougher internal enforcement so illegal immigrants adhere to what he calls "voluntary compliance," or self-deportation. Likewise, the Texas Tea Party activist JoAnn Fleming said she opposed allowing illegal immigrants to get “in line ahead of people who have tried to do it the right way.”
Cruz routinely cites his own history as inspiration for his views on immigration. His father, Rafael Cruz, a North Texas pastor and Tea Party favorite in his own right, fled Cuba and worked as a dishwasher before attending the University of Texas at Austin on a student visa, and he is now “living the American dream,” Ted Cruz says.
But critics of Cruz argue that Cubans are awarded what some today would call amnesty. Federal law allows Cubans to adjust their legal status a year after arriving.
Cruz said American refugee law had always been sympathetic to those in his father’s situation, even before Fidel Castro took hold of the island.
“U.S. immigration law, for many decades, has included asylum and refugee status for those who have credible fears of persecution and oppression,” he said. He added that Fidel Castro “established a repressive Communist regime that has tortured and murdered countless dissidents.”
Cuba poses a different scenario from other countries, he said, because U.S. immigration law has recognized for decades that there is a qualitative difference between fleeing political persecution and fleeing poverty.
Mexico, he said, is a great country, although its drug violence and poverty are horrific, and Mexicans with a credible fear of persecution should apply for asylum. But the problem is not as widespread there, he said.
“It is not the case that throughout the country of Mexico, everyone there has a credible fear of persecution,” he said. “Our laws allow that to be made on a case-by-case basis.”

http://www.texastribune.org/2013/09/...middle-ground/

"Hispanics in Texas are projected to eclipse the white population sometime in the next decade, and Cruz cannot afford to alienate large numbers of Latino voters with a strident anti-immigrant tone and a hard-line legislative approach. Major business interests also are supporting a path to citizenship."

There ya go, same excuse Ted Poe used. Just let us become Mexico Norte! ARRIBA!!!

Hasn't Cruz been working heavily with Rubio on a bill to defund Obamacare in the past month or so?

'Birther' Orly Taitz: Ted Cruz Has 'Basically the Same Issue as Obama'

U.S. News & World Report (blog)-by Steven Nelson-Aug 19, 2013
"Clearly there is an issue of eligibility," crusading skeptic of President Barack Obama's birth certificate Orly Taitz told U.S. News. "It's basically ...

Rueters/Ipsos POLL:
30 percent of those polled think that “most illegal immigrants, with some exceptions, should be deported”, while 23 percent believe all illegal immigrants should be deported.
Only 5 percent believe all illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the United States legally, and 31 percent want most illegal immigrants to stay.

Can't get this link to work.

Ted Cruz is not on this list. I like Ted Cruz more than most other GOP reps, but we need to nail this down where he stands on amnesty.

H2

26 GOP Members of Congress Supporting Obama's illegal alien amnesty identified

Sorry, I don't know what happens with my blog program and links! Been happening a lot lately.
Try this http://standwitharizona.com/blog/201...d-be-deported/

We have his words...what is to nail down? He wants legalization and increase in workers from Mexico, China & India!