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    Anti-federal bills move forward in House

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    Anti-federal bills move forward in House

    Thursday, March 10, 2005

    By WALT WILLIAMS Chronicle Staff Writer

    HELENA -- Lawmakers in the Montana House of Representatives collectively thumbed their noses at the federal government Monday by approving two bills exempting guns from federal regulations and driver's licenses from national standardization requirements.

    The bills by Representatives Diane Rice, R-Harrison, and Roger Koopman, R-Bozeman, do different things but are driven by the same concern: the erosion of personal liberties by the federal government. Koopman said Monday his gun bill, House Bill 366, would inspire a home-grown industry of gun-makers who produce firearms to be sold in Montana. It also sends a message reaffirming states' rights.

    "In that regard, this bill really has positive consequences, I believe, beyond the firearms industry itself," he said.

    Rice is sponsoring HB 304, which would prevent the state from cooperating with the federal government in establishing nationwide standards for noncommercial driver's licenses.

    Federal standards, she said, amount to a national ID card. Critics fear that such standards will lead to the government tracking its citizens.

    There was virtually no debate about the bill before lawmakers voted 94-6 to pass it, with a third and final vote expected today.

    Congress last year required nationwide standards for driver's licenses, fearing terrorists were using the nation's cornucopia of license styles to skirt security at airports.

    Montana already meets those standards, according to Dean Roberts of the motor vehicle division of the Montana Department of Justice.

    But there are now two proposals before Congress that go beyond what the state puts on its driver's licenses. They would, for example, mandate states produce licenses resistant to tampering and counterfeiting.

    If Montana ignores those standards -- as the bill requires -- then residents here wouldn't be able to use the driver's licenses as a form of ID when boarding commercial airplanes, or use them to pass any sort of federal-required identification.

    "To the average citizen, that means you are not going to get on an airplane," Roberts said.

    The bill was limited to noncommercial licenses because failure to comply with commercial license requirements would mean losing federal highway funds, he said.

    It also makes it illegal to issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens, which currently isn't prohibited under state law.

    Koopman's HB 366 would exempt guns made in Montana from federal regulation under the commerce clause of the U.S. Constitution, as long as the guns remain inside the state.

    Rep. Tim Dowell, D-Kalispell, criticized it as aiding terrorism. He noted that law enforcement officers used gun regulations to link the Washington D.C.-area sniper shootings.

    Terrorists "can come to Montana, they can buy one of these weapons, go on a reign of terror, and there would be no way to track them down," he said.

    He also questioned the logic of the state exempting itself from federal law.

    "That's pretty cool, maybe we should say we aren't subject to the income tax," he said.

    Dowell's complaints were dismissed as "crazy emotionalism" by Rep. Ed Butcher, R-Winifred. In the end, 73 lawmakers voted to move the bill forward, and afterward there was scattered applause on the House floor.

    A third and final vote is expect today. If both bills pass their third vote, then they will move on to the Senate.

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    Anti-federal bills move forward in House

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    Anti-federal bills move forward in House

    Thursday, March 10, 2005

    By WALT WILLIAMS Chronicle Staff Writer

    HELENA -- Lawmakers in the Montana House of Representatives collectively thumbed their noses at the federal government Monday by approving two bills exempting guns from federal regulations and driver's licenses from national standardization requirements.

    The bills by Representatives Diane Rice, R-Harrison, and Roger Koopman, R-Bozeman, do different things but are driven by the same concern: the erosion of personal liberties by the federal government. Koopman said Monday his gun bill, House Bill 366, would inspire a home-grown industry of gun-makers who produce firearms to be sold in Montana. It also sends a message reaffirming states' rights.

    "In that regard, this bill really has positive consequences, I believe, beyond the firearms industry itself," he said.

    Rice is sponsoring HB 304, which would prevent the state from cooperating with the federal government in establishing nationwide standards for noncommercial driver's licenses.

    Federal standards, she said, amount to a national ID card. Critics fear that such standards will lead to the government tracking its citizens.

    There was virtually no debate about the bill before lawmakers voted 94-6 to pass it, with a third and final vote expected today.

    Congress last year required nationwide standards for driver's licenses, fearing terrorists were using the nation's cornucopia of license styles to skirt security at airports.

    Montana already meets those standards, according to Dean Roberts of the motor vehicle division of the Montana Department of Justice.

    But there are now two proposals before Congress that go beyond what the state puts on its driver's licenses. They would, for example, mandate states produce licenses resistant to tampering and counterfeiting.

    If Montana ignores those standards -- as the bill requires -- then residents here wouldn't be able to use the driver's licenses as a form of ID when boarding commercial airplanes, or use them to pass any sort of federal-required identification.

    "To the average citizen, that means you are not going to get on an airplane," Roberts said.

    The bill was limited to noncommercial licenses because failure to comply with commercial license requirements would mean losing federal highway funds, he said.

    It also makes it illegal to issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens, which currently isn't prohibited under state law.

    Koopman's HB 366 would exempt guns made in Montana from federal regulation under the commerce clause of the U.S. Constitution, as long as the guns remain inside the state.

    Rep. Tim Dowell, D-Kalispell, criticized it as aiding terrorism. He noted that law enforcement officers used gun regulations to link the Washington D.C.-area sniper shootings.

    Terrorists "can come to Montana, they can buy one of these weapons, go on a reign of terror, and there would be no way to track them down," he said.

    He also questioned the logic of the state exempting itself from federal law.

    "That's pretty cool, maybe we should say we aren't subject to the income tax," he said.

    Dowell's complaints were dismissed as "crazy emotionalism" by Rep. Ed Butcher, R-Winifred. In the end, 73 lawmakers voted to move the bill forward, and afterward there was scattered applause on the House floor.

    A third and final vote is expect today. If both bills pass their third vote, then they will move on to the Senate.

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    >>Rice is sponsoring HB 304, which would prevent the state from cooperating with the federal government in establishing nationwide standards for noncommercial driver's licenses.

    Federal standards, she said, amount to a national ID card. Critics fear that such standards will lead to the government tracking its citizens.

    There was virtually no debate about the bill before lawmakers voted 94-6 to pass it, with a third and final vote expected today. <<



    A State fighting for State rights? WOW! That's a rarity.

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    >>Rice is sponsoring HB 304, which would prevent the state from cooperating with the federal government in establishing nationwide standards for noncommercial driver's licenses.

    Federal standards, she said, amount to a national ID card. Critics fear that such standards will lead to the government tracking its citizens.

    There was virtually no debate about the bill before lawmakers voted 94-6 to pass it, with a third and final vote expected today. <<



    A State fighting for State rights? WOW! That's a rarity.

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