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    No, that's not correct. Arrests are way up, and from that they deduce that illegal crossings are way up because that's how BP measures and reports on border crossings. Whether that is right or not, we don't know. That's just how they've measured it for at least the 13 years I've been following it. There are no illegal border crossing counts, they sneak nt, they're hidden, there's no way for BP to actually know how many entered illegally, they only know how many they caught and from that use a 1 to 5 ratio to estimate how many may have entered illegally.

    It could be that with the fence, more agents, more equipment, better surveillance, etc., etc., etc. they are just doing a better job of making arrests and arresting more people without any rise in the number of border crossings. They have more resources than they did years ago, they have a mandate from the President to get r done, they also have new management, so it's entirely plausible that Border Patrol is actually doing a better job and being more successful in their operations resulting in more arrests without any increase in border crossings. In fact, that's more plausible than the assumption that nothing changed or improved despite all these new actions, resources, management and directives from the President by using the same 1 arrest out of 5 border crossings method of measuring border crossings. That ratio should be adjusted.

    Politically, Trump is seizing on the notion of a "surge" because that supports his effort to get troops to the border, money for the wall, interior enforcement, ending chain migration, eliminating the visa lottery and fixing the loopholes in the UAC and Asylum programs. So if you are trying to get more appropriations and legislation, you claim a "SURGE". If you're trying to pat yourself on the back, you claim 46 year low. Trump went middle ground and claimed the "SURGE" and the "UNACCEPTABLE" 46 year low, meaning even these low numbers are still too many because any is too many.

    It was all very clear to me. The pundits are confused, though. He sent them on a whirly-bird trip.

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    Judy wrote (excerpt):

    It was all very clear to me. The pundits are confused, though. He sent them on a whirly-bird trip.
    It's clear to you because, whether you actually believe it or not, are always going to offer the best case scenario in order to provide cover for Trump. That's your prerogative but you shouldn't always expect everyone else to buy into it.

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    I consider that a rude, insulting, political attack on me.

    This President has nothing to "cover".
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    The Caravan is largely broken up thanks to the strong immigration laws of Mexico and their willingness to use them so as not to cause a giant scene at our Border. Because of the Trump Administrations actions, Border crossings are at a still UNACCEPTABLE 46 year low. Stop drugs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I consider that a rude, insulting, political attack on me.

    This President has nothing to "cover".
    How so? It can be easily substantiated through many postings you've made. As I said, it's your prerogative, just don't expect everyone to buy into it.

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    This President has absolutely nothing to "cover." He's doing a great job on all the issues, making lots of progress, I couldn't be more pleased with a President. Lots still to do because there was so much to do and lots of it can't be done by him personally, it requires Congress to appropriate money and pass legislation and he's a few votes short in Congress to get this part of it done. Hopefully Republicans will do well in the mid-terms and we'll have the votes in 2019 to complete some of these missions including several (71) on immigration.
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    The article titled "Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    Trump claimed "border crossings" were at a 46-year low... not arrests . . .
    "Border crossings" could drop to zero and we would still have people flying in every day with tourist visas, student visas, work visas, investment visas , etc. and just never leaving.
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