Thread: WAAAAH! Bush's immigration order horribly flawed

Bush's immigration order horribly flawed

Marissa Graciosa
is the campaign coordinator for the Fair Immigration Reform Movement



The Bush administration is wrongly forcing government contractors to verify the legal status of their workforce with the Social Security Administration.

For me, this is personal.

My mother taught me how to write my numbers. Raised in the Philippines and schooled by nuns who traced their roots back to Spain, she makes her 1s like a lot of Europeans - straight sticks with a leaf-like line coming off the top toward the left and the whole thing leaning toward the right as resting in the shade from the afternoon sun.

My 1s are my mother's descendants, but anyone might easily mistake my 1s for 7s. And if a clerk for the Social Security Administration makes that mistake or other mistakes like that, it could cost me and 13 million Americans our jobs.

The Social Security Administration's "match list" is notoriously error-prone. The agency's own inspector general found that 13 million of the 17.8 million "no matches" were actually U.S. citizens.

So the assumption that if you don't have a match, then you're here illegally is wrong at least 70 percent of the time! The discrepancies had occurred because of clerical errors or other innocent things, such as name changes from marriages or divorces.

The unreliability of the "match list" figured prominently in the reasoning of the U.S. District Court for Northern California, which ruled last year that the practice would harm thousands of innocent workers and employers.

In another case, an appellate court in June in California ordered the company that runs the Staples Center in Los Angeles to reinstate 33 janitors it had summarily fired after receiving "no match" letters.

But this has not deterred President Bush. On June 9, he signed an executive order requiring all contractors and other companies that do business with the federal government to verify their employees' identities in the federal Social Security database.

The Social Security Administration has better things to do. Chasing after undocumented immigrants who have Social Security taxes deducted from their incomes but don't ever withdraw from the system because their ID numbers are false, not only wastes government's time, but actually robs us of that additional tax income.

Meanwhile, millions of U.S. citizens are also terrorized in the process by businesses' looking for any excuse to abuse and fire workers.

And employers looking to evade the ruling will resort to subcontracting more of their workforce, a practice that reliably lowers wages and benefits across the economy. In an interconnected economy, we need solutions that help all of us, rather than finger-pointing as we collectively race to the bottom.

My 1s might look funny, but why put me and 13 million Americans at risk at a time of growing economic uncertainty? Unfortunately, that's not a typo.

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Marissa Graciosa wrote this
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In another case, an appellate court in June in California ordered the company that runs the Staples Center in Los Angeles to reinstate 33 janitors it had summarily fired after receiving "no match" letters.

Notice what she doesn't say. By stating this she wants you to believe they were reinstated because of SS System errors. But, au contraire...they were reinstated by an activist judge disregarding the actual law coming up with his own legislation (legislating from the bench, which is of course the leftist judge's way of doing things) stating that SS# matches couldn't be used to deem an illegal alien illegible to work.

Enter it both way - no match - must be illegal

Social Security taxes are just 6.3 of a persons wages we are more concerned about the other 93.6. There should not be any illegal alien in that job an American or a legal immigrant should be in it who would vest and collect.

America has every right to use E-verify and any other means necessary to stop employers from hiring illegals that take our jobs as well put us at serious risks for diseases particularly if they are working in the food industry. And/or cost of billions of dollars in tax revenues via "the illegals welfare benefits package" copurtesy of the American tax payer. Marissa Graciosa may have been slightly inconvenienced but her inconvenience is of little value compared to the overall theme of the employers/illegal scam cost to our country.

PS
I wonder if Graciosa is a card carrying racist hate group La Raza member?

Debunking the “E-Verify Error Rateâ€

My 1s are my mother's descendants, but anyone might easily mistake my 1s for 7s. And if a clerk for the Social Security Administration makes that mistake or other mistakes like that, it could cost me and 13 million Americans our jobs.

That's funny---when spoken I don't think "one" is even close to "seven." What American, at least of employable age, cannot recite their social security number? So a good starting point is just to ask someone to repeat theirs. Illegals would generally have difficulty with this. Then ask them their birthplace; the first three numbers indicate the state. A discreprancy would send up red flags.

Originally Posted by Captainron

My 1s are my mother's descendants, but anyone might easily mistake my 1s for 7s. And if a clerk for the Social Security Administration makes that mistake or other mistakes like that, it could cost me and 13 million Americans our jobs.

That's funny---when spoken I don't think "one" is even close to "seven." What American, at least of employable age, cannot recite their social security number? So a good starting point is just to ask someone to repeat theirs. Illegals would generally have difficulty with this. Then ask them their birthplace; the first three numbers indicate the state. A discreprancy would send up red flags.

I agree. Employees should be asked to recite the # back. EVERYBODY knows theirs by heart. Also alot of people dont know that the 1st 3 letters of the Social Security # is the state of birth. That would be a great question to ask any employee.

It's a simple matter of showing your PROOF of legal status:

1. US birth certificate
2. Naturalization/Citizenship papers
3. Green card
4. Passport

Then trotting over to the SSA to get your number fixed, if it's been entered wrong.

Women do this when they get married and need to change their ss card to their married name, so how is it "inconvenient" for everyone else?

E-Verify EVERYONE! iT WORKS!

Originally Posted by miguelina

It's a simple matter of showing your PROOF of legal status:

1. US birth certificate
2. Naturalization/Citizenship papers
3. Green card
4. Passport

Then trotting over to the SSA to get your number fixed, if it's been entered wrong.

Women do this when they get married and need to change their ss card to their married name, so how is it "inconvenient" for everyone else?

E-Verify EVERYONE! iT WORKS!

DITTO!!!

And maybe as our little part in fixing this "Broken system" a little inconvience is not so bad or certainly not going to hurt us. Get over it!!