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    Bill would withhold federal taxes for immigration costs

    http://www.azdailysun.com/non_sec/nav_i ... yID=124740

    By HOWARD FISCHER
    Capitol Media Services
    02/10/2006

    PHOENIX -- Unable to get the federal government to pick up the state's costs of illegal immigration, the Senate Finance Committee voted Thursday for a little bit of self-help: Take possession of what Arizona taxpayers are supposed to pay to Uncle Sam.

    Under the terms of SB 1459, Arizonans would continue to fill out their federal tax returns and file them with the Internal Revenue Service. But the legislation then requires the actual check to be made payable -- and mailed -- to the state Department of Revenue.

    It would then be up to state tax officials to figure out what costs the state has incurred due to the presence of people illegally in this country. And only after deducting that would the balance be forwarded to the federal government.

    "Obviously the federal government will have a problem with this,'' said Sen. Dean Martin, R-Phoenix. "That's the whole point.''

    Martin, who crafted the bill and chairs the committee, said the move will finally get the attention of the federal government to either do a better job of sealing the border or compensate Arizona for the costs.

    Those costs range from public education, which the state is required to provide without regard to the legal status of the child, to welfare, law enforcement and prison expenses.

    Martin said he has no idea how much that would total. Instead, the measure would leave that task to the budget analysts who work for the governor and Legislature.

    "Hopefully this will be the Boston Tea Party of the 21st century,'' he said.

    Given that the federal government does not like being paid late -- or not at all -- the legislation also includes a provision that it will pay any interest or penalties that the IRS imposes against individuals and corporations.

    Sen. Ken Cheuvront, D-Phoenix, agreed that Washington is not paying its share. But in voting against the measure, he said that last provision shows legislation is unworkable: Penalties and the cost of defending Arizona taxpayers will eat up far more than anything the state gets to keep.

    How fiscally practical Martin's proposal would be, assuming it were to become law, is less than clear.

    On paper, there should be plenty of cash to seize: IRS figures show Arizonans paid more than $25 billion in 2004, the most recent figures available.

    But most of that comes from the regular withholding, with three out of four taxpayers actually seeking a refund when they file their annual returns.

    Martin said, though, he believes the net payments due on April 15 still would total "several hundred million dollars,'' a figure he believes would at least put a significant dent in the state's costs of border crossers.

    Thursday's 5-3 vote sends the measure to the full Senate.
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    Great Idea !!
    Do not vote for Party this year, vote for America and American workers!

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    I am so ALL FOR THIS IDEA! If every state would do exactly what Arizona is talking about doing, then, our government might get it.....Americans are fed up! I say let the 21st century tea party begin! Woo Hoo!
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    Keeping our money for ourselves and our own use just might get the attention of a very greedy federal government.

    When we have to do everything ourselves what do we need THEM for??

    Deport Congress.

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    This is a great idea, but it might be the tipping point.

    Those legislators should surround themselves with "protection".

    I remember, a few years ago, a federal judge banned an author from writing , or advising people that they might not have to pay taxes.



    If this idea gets any traction, we can expect troops to be pulled out of Iraq, and deployed to Arizona, NOT to guard the border, though.


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    No thanks to John McCain, there ARE some wise people in AZ. YEAH for them!!!
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