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08-05-2011, 06:22 PM #1
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ABA debates birthright US citizenship
ABA debates birthright US citizenship
By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press – 1 day ago
TORONTO (AP) — The American Bar Association will vote next week on a resolution urging the U.S. Congress to reject any changes to the Constitution that would eliminate the automatic grant of citizenship to anyone born in the United States.
The association, which is holding its annual meeting in Toronto, debated the issue Thursday ahead of next Tuesday's vote.
Some Republican lawmakers have called for legislation to repeal birthright citizenship; their proposed constitutional amendment has gained favor recently.
A proposal urging the U.S. Congress to reject such a change is expected be adopted by the ABA next week.
Former Judge Bruce Einhorn, a longtime civil rights activist in Los Angeles, said during Thursday's debate that to penalize children for where they were born — a decision over which they had no control — would be morally offensive.
"This is about our values," Einhorn said. He added that "it would be horrendous public policy" to deny citizenship to those born in the U.S.
But John Eastman, a conservative law professor at Chapman University in Orange, California, argued that it's an open question whether the citizenship clause of the Fourteenth Amendment allows for citizenship for anyone born in the U.S. and said it's time for the U.S. Congress to clarify the issue.
Eastman challenged a claim before the Supreme Court that Yaser Esam Hamdi, who was seized by U.S. troops on the Afghanistan battlefield in 2001, was a citizen because he was born in Louisiana while his Saudi parents were in the U.S. on a temporary work visa.
Eastman called it odd that a man who had little connection to the U.S. could be considered a U.S. citizen. The Supreme Court ruled in 2004 that Hamdi had the right to use U.S. courts to challenge his detention.
Thomas Saenz, president of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, which is based in Los Angeles, said the Latino community is most at issue in discussions about citizenship by birth and said it's hard not to see that the reinvigorated debate is really about opposition to demographic changes.
"You see in many of the comments by proponents concerns about demographic change in this country," Saenz said. "Yes. the 2010 census confirms that Latinos are now the largest minority group of the country. We are 16.3 percent of the population which means that nearly one in six Americans are Latino."
Saenz said the issue is closely tied to the efforts by some states, such as Arizona, to limit immigration.
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08-05-2011, 06:43 PM #2
What's there to debate?
If you were born by 2 illegals, then to me the Anchor baby is illegal as well being born under false pretenses.
Case closed!
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08-05-2011, 07:04 PM #3
This is so predictable.
"Men of low degree are vanity, Men of high degree are a lie. " David
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08-05-2011, 07:39 PM #4
No more
No More Birthright Citizenship.
It is being exploited to the fullest by these clowns as their members have special 'interest' in the Birth tourism industry.
One parent must be a citizen, from now on...
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08-05-2011, 09:50 PM #5
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Former Judge Bruce Einhorn, a longtime civil rights activist in Los Angeles, said during Thursday's debate that to penalize children for where they were born — a decision over which they had no control — would be morally offensive.
"This is about our values," Einhorn said. He added that "it would be horrendous public policy" to deny citizenship to those born in the U.S.
But John Eastman, a conservative law professor at Chapman University in Orange, California, argued that it's an open question whether the citizenship clause of the Fourteenth Amendment allows for citizenship for anyone born in the U.S. and said it's time for the U.S. Congress to clarify the issue.
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08-05-2011, 11:53 PM #6
Anchor baby citizenship is why this population continues to explode; if it is not ended, America as we know it will not be recognizable.
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08-07-2011, 11:31 PM #7
Re: ABA debates birthright US citizenship
Originally Posted by OneNationUnderGod
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08-08-2011, 09:07 AM #9
morally offensive???
"would be morally offensive"
As offensive as reaching into my wallet, my home, my family and taking my wherewithal and distributing it to people who are here illegally?
As morally repugnant as to deliberately misinterpret an amendment that was clearly intended to see that our black citizens and their offspring were able to live as free Americans with full rights of citizenship and grant those rights and wonderment of American citizenship to those who steal, illegally, into our country?
This man Einhorn, has he been given imperial rights that he can decide that his definition of our values and what is "horrendous" should supersede the needs and wants of his fellow countrymen?
Let him put on sackcloth and ashes and go forth to lands where these same people come from and improve their lots and their well being their--not here.
One man, one vote and my vote cancels Einhorn's.
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08-08-2011, 10:41 AM #10
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If one has any question as to why the ABA would take this stance just go to any barrio and look at all the "abogado de inmigración" signs and offices that abound.
Once again the only "moral" ground is that of "keeping my pockets stuffed with green." They make HUGE amounts of easy money off of the immigration racket. HUUUGE.I don't care who you are, how you got here, what color you are, what language/dialect you speak... If you didn't get here legally then you don't belong here. Period.
10% To 27% of 30 Million Non-Citizens Are Registered To Vote
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