Thread: CT- Immigrant Advocates, Supremacists Clash

Immigrant Advocates, Supremacists Clash
by Thomas MacMillan | August 15, 2009 10:53 PM | Permalink | Comments (0)

Violence flared in East Haven, as New Haven activists marching to protest alleged police racism tangled with out-of-state “white nationalists.â€

Youtube video of the event:

http://tiny.cc/mgyNN

The clip doesn't show if the hair pulling attacker was arrested.

Here's another video of the event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD9Fc2dyXjA

White pride groups dont help the cause.

Was the Mexican that provoked it arreseted?

Originally Posted by OhThuRtyWoN

White pride groups dont help the cause.

Agreed. But it's too bad that similiar groups dedicated to hispanic pride do not face the same scrutiny or hurt the illegal invader, open border efforts.

Call yourself East Coast White Unity and your automatically branded a white supremacists, white nationalist organization.

Call yourself Unidad Latina En Accion,(united latinos in action?) or even la raza, and your branded a hispanic advocacy group (even when your name clearly suggests otherwise), complete with federal as well as corporate funding to promote your agenda as it pertains to your particular ethnicity.

How does that work?

Ironically, this is exactly the perception the MSM is interested in promoting in this debate against illegal immigration. It's the poor oppressed hispanic immigrant activists against the white nationalists. Anyone who is opposed to open borders and the enforcement of immigration laws must be a member of such a group.

Nothing could be further from the truth!

Is there a double standard at play here?

Originally Posted by NoBueno

Originally Posted by OhThuRtyWoN

White pride groups dont help the cause.

Agreed. But it's too bad that similiar groups dedicated to hispanic pride do not face the same scrutiny or hurt the illegal invader, open border efforts.

Call yourself East Coast White Unity and your automatically branded a white supremacists, white nationalist organization.

Call yourself Unidad Latina En Accion,(united latinos in action?) or even la raza, and your branded a hispanic advocacy group (even when your name clearly suggests otherwise), complete with federal as well as corporate funding to promote your agenda as it pertains to your particular ethnicity.

How does that work?

Ironically, this is exactly the perception the MSM is interested in promoting in this debate against illegal immigration. It's the poor oppressed hispanic immigrant activists against the white nationalists. Anyone who is opposed to open borders and the enforcement of immigration laws must be a member of such a group.

Nothing could be further from the truth!

Is there a double standard at play here?

Oh yes there is a double standard but at the same time when you mention white pride group, red flags go up immediately. We all know why, thats a no brainer. I mentioned this in another topic, we need to create a group that doesnt involve race. Alipac would be a great organization to create local chapters throughout the US.

You watch that video and you got a guy with a black bandana covering his face. Who in their right state of mind would stand next to him? Just like when my parents would say to me, "you stand out there looking like a thug, cops going to treat you like one."

This is a great issue I would love to speak on but I will keep it simple. Picture this: An immigration march advocating for illegals. You have lets say Alipac members protesting. Among those protesters are everyday Americans, black, white, latino etc. We're civil and speak like we have some sense and we want to get our point across.

Who can oppose us? Where is the bias amongst our organization? You can not prove a point against a separatist movement by creating your own. We must adapt to the change.

It is ok to belong to an organisation called "the race", hang our flags uspside down or burn them, get free handouts then say it isn't enough, demand rights that you don't deserve and call a white organization racist?They have black pride day, their own college, their own tv show, ther own awards shows etc. The Mexicans have their own schools when I thought segregation went out along time ago, their own radio stations, there own tv stations, award shows, etc. I still would like to know when the white people in this country will stop apologizing for wanting to take our country back from 3rd world invaders. When will white people stop apologizing for being white. We are not the racists in this country, it is the other races telling us were are racist while being racist themselves.

Originally Posted by agrneydgrl

It is ok to belong to an organisation called "the race", hang our flags uspside down or burn them, get free handouts then say it isn't enough, demand rights that you don't deserve and call a white organization racist?They have black pride day, their own college, their own tv show, ther own awards shows etc. The Mexicans have their own schools when I thought segregation went out along time ago, their own radio stations, there own tv stations, award shows, etc. I still would like to know when the white people in this country will stop apologizing for wanting to take our country back from 3rd world invaders. When will white people stop apologizing for being white. We are not the racists in this country, it is the other races telling us were are racist while being racist themselves.

Well the only 3rd world invasion problem we have is happening now with the illegals. Whether they're from Mexico, Cuba, Canada etc. I am quite certain we are familiar with history and how a lot of different ethnicities arrived on American soil. Together our immigrant ancestors became Americans, went through horrific civil unrest and race relations. Eventually segregation did end legally but it still remains. I saw a documentary on HBO that a high school in Mississippi just began integrating their prom in 2008.

Without a doubt the separatist organizations can be debated and viewed as racist. But some points you made were over emphasized. BET which is owned by whites was created to showcase hip-hop/rap music. Which was obviously created by blacks. Changing the name is an argument to be made but BET does continue to cater to the same audience that listens to that type of music. Regardless of race. The TV and radio stations is just business and you really cant bring those into a race debate. The latino's have Telemundo along with other spanish speaking radio stations. Doesnt cater to me because I dont speak spanish.

Bottom line, you really cant bring preference, business, and marketing strategies into a race debate because thats what makes America. We have different holidays to honor each heritage and we will always be segregated. All this take our country back propaganda is non-sense and with the history of white pride organizations, no one will take you seriously.