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    Boehner presents Tea Party backed immigration plan

    House Plan May Address Immigrants Brought to U.S. as Children

    Jan 9, 2015 8:47 AM PST

    John Boehner is presenting a Tea Party-backed plan at a closed-door meeting.

    (Bloomberg) -- House Republicans are broadening their move to block President Barack Obama’s immigration orders to also remove protection for immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children, a nod to Tea Party-aligned lawmakers that has little chance of success.


    House Speaker John Boehner, an Ohio Republican, is planning a vote next week to reverse orders shielding some 5 million people included in Obama’s November orders.

    The proposal also covers a 2012 directive addressing young undocumented immigrants and a series of 2011 memos that gave priority to terrorists and criminals for deportation.


    “It is the fulfillment of a promise made by Speaker Boehner,” said Representative Kevin Cramer, a North Dakota Republican. ‘We are fulfilling that promise to our base.’’


    “It is the fulfillment of a promise made by Speaker Boehner.”

    Representative Kevin Cramer

    House Republicans have said they wanted to settle on a strategy today. The more sweeping attack on Obama’s immigration policies is the product of a pledge by Boehner to use his expanded majority to unravel the president’s actions. Though the Senate is now in Republican hands, there is little chance it will adopt the House approach.


    Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky would need at least six Democrats to go along with the measure. That’s unlikely since he will need conservative Democrats like Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, who recently affirmed that she favors a broad immigration bill that would allow many undocumented immigrants to stay.


    Party Rebellion


    Boehner’s re-election as speaker last week was overshadowed by a rebellion by conservatives who argued that he has routinely sacrificed Republican principles on immigration, the budget and other matters in order to compromise with Democrats.

    “People didn’t believe he was going to do exactly what he’s doing now,” said Representative Tom Cole of Oklahoma, a Boehner ally.

    “He can’t control the Senate and he can’t control the president,” who would veto any legislation targeting his orders, Cole said. Yet “this tells you how conservative John Boehner is and how he wants to lead.”


    The move is also an attempt to shore up support within the conference to proceed to a broader overhaul of U.S. immigration laws, said Cole. Even if the proposal fails in the Senate, conservative critics should be satisfied by Boehner’s efforts.


    “People know when you fought the good fight,” he said. “It’s our opening position in the negotiation.”


    Agency Funding


    House Appropriations Chairman Hal Rogers said yesterday that Republicans will seek to undercut Obama’s decision to ease deportations by putting Congress in charge of funding the agency that oversees immigration applications. The idea is to deny the administration the funds it needs to carry out its orders.

    House lawmakers will vote on amendments including language drafted by Representative Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina saying that money provided in the bill or fees collected by the agency can’t be used to grant work authorizations to undocumented immigrants or bestow other benefits.


    While many Republicans said the expanded approach also targeting undocumented children has broad support, other party lawmakers were critical.


    “I’m not happy,” said Representative Jeff Denham of California. “We’ve got to deal with immigration as a whole,” he said. “Just picking on the children who came here through no fault of their own, I think is the wrong way to start.”


    To contact the reporters on this story: Heidi Przybyla in Washington athprzybyla@bloomberg.net; Erik Wasson in Washington atewasson@bloomberg.net


    To contact the editors responsible for this story: Jodi Schneider atjschneider50@bloomberg.net Mark McQuillan, Laurie Asseo

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    Congressman Denham of CA, I have no problem whatsoever picking on children who had nothing to do with their coming here. Congress and President Reagan had not problem with passing an amnesty that led to the unnecessary death of my son.

    Parents and grandparents of American children, how much evidence do you NEED to recognize that American government respects alien children more than American children? Best pay attention!
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    Excuse me, the article bellow say that the House bill intended to stop Obama's illegal amnesty is unlikely to pass in the Senate? How is that possible? The Republicans have the majority in the Senate. Is it that many Republicans will not vote for the House bill? And if that is true, why the hell is there any Republican who would not vote to stop Obama's illegal amnesty? The article says they need 6 Democrats to vote for the bill. Why is that. Again do the Republicans not have a majority in the Senate?

    Who is slinging around the line of crap.
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    Senate GOP Leaders Back Obama Amnesty, Oppose Cruz Vote

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    Senate GOP Leaders Back Obama Amnesty, Oppose Cruz Vote

    2:13 AM 12/14/2014
    NEIL MUNRO
    White House Correspondent

    Twenty-four of 42 GOP senators, including all the GOP leaders, backed the $1.1 trillion 2015 budget that also funds President Barack Obama’s unilateral amnesty.

    The Senate’s 56-to-40 vote came as outgoing Democratic Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid used the broad GOP opposition to the Obama’s amnesty to split the GOP into two factions.


    That 20-to-22 split came late Saturday, when Republicans finally had a chance to vote for or against Obama’s amnesty.

    The vote was engineered by Sen. Ted Cruz, who filed a “Point of Order” claim that required the senators to say if they thought the budget bill was constitutional despite not defunding Obama’s amnesty. Unless negated by judges, the amnesty is expected to provide five million migrants with work permits to let them compete for legal jobs against Americans, to put many illegals on a fast-track to citizenship, and to prevent the repatriation of nearly all 12 million migrants in the United States.


    Twenty-two GOP senators used the Cruz opportunity to say the amnesty is unconstitutional, and three GOP senators were absent.


    The remaining 20 Republican senators said the budget bill was constitutional, even if Obama’s amnesty is not.

    The group of 20 senators, however, included many who dislike Cruz, and several angered by Reid’s decision to hold a series of Saturday votes. Reid’s decision forced GOP senators to cancel travel plans and miss planned parties. He skillfully steered that anger toward Cruz, sharply reducing his total votes down to 22, a Senate aide told The Daily Caller.


    “Senators are so mad at Cruz right now… the subject of the Cruz amendment was Cruz,” not the amnesty, the aide said.


    More than 22 GOP senators are opposed to the amnesty, and others are ambivalent, even though the GOP leadership — and several senators —- are quietly backing the amnesty, he said.


    “A lot of members are casually going along with this” anti-Cruz mood, he said. But “they’re easily flippable into the [anti-amnesty] fight” when they feel pressure from constituents, he said.

    The anti-Cruz mood was spotlighted by pro-amnesty South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham. He voted against Cruz’s measure, and later he tweeted out thinly veiled criticism of Cruz.


    “Some of the tactics employed today will result in numerous Obama nominees – previously blocked – to end up being confirmed… I haven’t seen Harry Reid smile like this in years,” said Graham, who actually kick-started the Senate’s bitter 2013 immigration debate in December 2012 by teaming up with New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer.

    The Cruz voted took place just before the major budget vote, which split 56 to 40.

    Twenty-four GOP senators backed the amnesty-funding budget bill, including Sen. Mitch McConnell. During his recent election in Kentucky, a pro-McConnell group said his opponent would support amnesty.


    Since at least 2006, Democrats have said they will oppose business’s demand for extra foreign workers unless the foreign workers are allowed to vote in future elections. Obama’s amnesty include work permits and a fast-track to citizenship for five million migrants. He’s also telling an additional 7 million illegals, plus people who overstay their work-visas, that he won’t repatriate them unless they commit major crimes or pose a national security threat.

    The vote came two days after the GOP leadership team in the House steamrolled opposition from 67 GOP legislators, and pushed through a budget that allows funding for Obama’s unpopular amnesty.

    Speaker of the House John Boehner’s win came after Obama helped persuade 56 Democrats to vote for the budget, and despite many protest calls from GOP voters.


    On Saturday, 18 of 45 GOP senators voted against the budget bill, mostly because it did not block funding for the Obama’s unilateral and unpopular amnesty.


    A growing number of GOP legislators oppose the worker-inflow as unfair to Americans, whose median wages have remained flat since 2000. But some of the no votes came from amnesty supporters, including Sen. John McCain and Sen. Jeff Flake.

    Twenty-one of 54 attending Democratic senators voted against the budget bill, largely because of a campaign finance provision denounced by GOP Sen. David Vitter and Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren.


    The 56 to 40 final score, however, is misleading. Routinely, many senators decided how to vote against a bill only after they learn it will pass. That timing allows them to posture as opponents of some measure in the bill, without risk any push-back from supporters of the bill. Had the bill’s final success come into doubt, some of the opposing senators likely would have changed to supporters under last-minute pressure.


    During the Saturday debate, Reid used the debate pause required by Cruz’s vote accomplish a series of votes needed to advance Obama’s nominees to various political and judicial posts. Those weekend votes will allow him to stage final confirmation votes starting Monday.


    Democrats and reporters who don’t like Cruz claimed his demand for a vote was a benefit for Democrats. In fact, Reid already planned to push the nominees through the Senate next week, and announced after the budget vote that he would be keeping the Senate in session next week.

    “Senator Cruz’s stunt got two fewer votes than the 24 Obama nominees he helped Senate Democrats advance tonight,” said a Reid spokesman, according to a tweet by Buzzfeed reporter John Stanton.


    National Journal’s Ron Fournier tweeted a series of taunts, “Cruz controlled…. Cruz shipped… Cruz whiner… Cruz to Nowhere.”

    The GOP senators who voted against the Cruz point of order also includes senators who ran on an anti-amnesty platform in 2014, such as Sen. Lamar Alexander.

    The list also includes senators who will face primary and general elections in 2016, such as Arizona Sen. John McCain, Illinois Sen. Mark Krik, and Indiana’s Sen. Dan Coats.


    The senators who declared Obama’s move unconstitutional included Sens. Lee, Jeff Sessions, Rand Paul, Mike Crapo, Rob Portman, Pat Roberts, Marco Rubio, Tim Scott, David Vitter and Chuck Grassley. The group also included Sens. Roy Blunt and John Thune, who are members of the GOP’s leadership team.


    But eight of the senators who voted for the Cruz measure also voted to help pass the 2015 budget, even though it does not bar funding for the amnesty. The switchers included Blunt and Thune.


    Earlier during the debate, Reid scuttled an effort by Sen. Mike Lee to schedule a vote that could have barred funding for Obama’s amnesty.

    Reid opposed the up-or-down Lee vote, in part because it would create a problem for some of the 46 Democratic senators in the future elections. Many polls show that Obama’s amnesty is unpopular, including among Democratic voters and in Democratic-dominated states.

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    “I’m not happy,” said Representative Jeff Denham of California. “We’ve got to deal with immigration as a whole,” he said. “Just picking on the children who came here through no fault of their own, I think is the wrong way to start.”
    Oh man, am I so sick of this one. It doesn't matter whether they're in the wrong place because they came here on their own or were carried in by their parents. All that matters is that they aren't supposed to be here and they and their parents need to be deported for violating US immigration law. Since when have one of you morons thought it wasn't right that some kid riding in a car that stops and someone else gets out and goes into the 7-11 to commit a robbery and the thief ends up shooting the clerk, gets a felony murder charge even though the robbery and murder occurred through no fault of his own? He was just a passenger in the car out for a joy ride, yet you drag his butt to court with charges that will get him a death sentence, when he was completely innocent of the robbery and the shooting. So tell me, how many American Kids do you worry about who get embroiled in a crime or violation of law through no fault of their own? Puleeze, just sit down and shut-up. If you aren't going to stop amnesty, then resign your office, go home, and make room for someone with both the guts and intelligence to do so, because if you can't stop amnesty, then you can't fix anything with your head too far up the wrong end of the wrong horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csarbww View Post
    Excuse me, the article bellow say that the House bill intended to stop Obama's illegal amnesty is unlikely to pass in the Senate? How is that possible? The Republicans have the majority in the Senate. Is it that many Republicans will not vote for the House bill? And if that is true, why the hell is there any Republican who would not vote to stop Obama's illegal amnesty? The article says they need 6 Democrats to vote for the bill. Why is that. Again do the Republicans not have a majority in the Senate?

    Who is slinging around the line of crap.
    The Senate must have 60 votes to break a Democratic filibuster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Oh man, am I so sick of this one. It doesn't matter whether they're in the wrong place because they came here on their own or were carried in by their parents. All that matters is that they aren't supposed to be here and they and their parents need to be deported for violating US immigration law. Since when have one of you morons thought it wasn't right that some kid riding in a car that stops and someone else gets out and goes into the 7-11 to commit a robbery and the thief ends up shooting the clerk, gets a felony murder charge even though the robbery and murder occurred through no fault of his own? He was just a passenger in the car out for a joy ride, yet you drag his butt to court with charges that will get him a death sentence, when he was completely innocent of the robbery and the shooting. So tell me, how many American Kids do you worry about who get embroiled in a crime or violation of law through no fault of their own? Puleeze, just sit down and shut-up. If you aren't going to stop amnesty, then resign your office, go home, and make room for someone with both the guts and intelligence to do so, because if you can't stop amnesty, then you can't fix anything with your head too far up the wrong end of the wrong horse.
    Giving illegal alien children amnesty is an indirect way of rewarding their illegal parents because they will eventually become citizens. Relatives in the immediate family of U.S. citizens are eligible to file a green card.

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