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    Border Patrol union blasts Homeland Security instructions to 'run away' and 'hide' from gunmen


    By Perry Chiaramonte

    Published June 29, 2012

    FoxNews.com




    Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active shooter."

    It's one thing to tell civilian employees to cower under a desk if a gunman starts spraying fire in a confined area, say members of Tucson Local 2544/National Border Patrol Council, but to give armed law enforcement professionals the same advice is downright insulting. The instructions from DHS come in the form of pamphlets and a mandatory computer tutorial.

    “We are now taught in an ‘Active Shooter’ course that if we encounter a shooter in a public place we are to ‘run away’ and ‘hide’" union leader Brandon Judd wrote on the website of 3,300-member union local. “If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become ‘aggressive’ and ‘throw things’ at him or her. We are then advised to ‘call law enforcement’ and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered)."

    The FEMA-administered computer course, entitled “IS-907- Active Shooter: What You Can Do,” is a 45-minute tutorial that provides guidance to all employees on how to recognize indicators of possible workplace violence and what to do should their office be invaded by gunmen and focuses around three main options; either evacuate, hide out, or in dire circumstances, take action.

    Main Points of the "Active Shooter" training course

    Evacuate: If there is an accessible escape path, attempt to evacuate the premises.
    Hide out: If evacuation is not possible, find a place to hide where the active shooter is less likely to find you.
    Take action: As a last resort, and only when your life is in imminent danger, attempt to disrupt and/or incapacitate the active shooter.

    Once the course is completed, employees are urged to download additional materials including a summary booklet and pocket-sized card outlining protocol, which was also handed out to employees two months ago.

    One DHS employee told FoxNews.com the instruction cards were handed out to employees six weeks ago. At the time, he assumed they were only for civilian employees, not armed law enforcement officers within the department, which oversees the U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

    "Requiring BP agents to follow the same steps is egregious,” he said.

    DHS officials maintain that the Active Shooter course was designed for all employees—civilian and law-enforcement officers-- and no one should rush into a situation where they, or others around them, could get hurt.

    “The Department of Homeland Security takes very seriously its responsibility to protect all of its employees from threats that may surface in the workplace,” U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman Michael Friel said in a written statement to FoxNews.com

    “CBP workforce training is designed to prepare all employees, including leaders, managers, supervisors, law enforcement personnel and non-law enforcement personnel, to understand their own roles and the roles of their fellow employees in responding to threats. In an active shooter scenario, employees are taught to take actions that keep them alive.”

    But members of Local 2544 say they are obligated to protect the public in such a situation, whether they are on duty or not. Given the instructions, some wonder if they would be disciplined for taking down a gunman in a situation like the Fort Hood shooting or the January, 2011 case in Casa Adobes, in which a deranged gunmen shot 19 people, including Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Six people were killed.

    “It is always comforting to know that for those of us who carry a weapon when we are off-duty, if we should encounter such a situation, stop a shooter and save countless lives, we can look forward to being disciplined or fired by the Border Patrol because we should have run away to hide and then maybe thrown objects at the deranged killer instead of taking action and stopping him with a firearm,” the union local's website says.

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    this is nuts, if they shoot at them they have to hide and maybe throw rocks at them? Maybe they can throw their bullets???

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    They have to run and hide! Just like murdered patrolman Brian Terry most of them can only shoot back with freaking non lethal weapons like bean bag shotguns anyway!

    Wake up and SMELL THE INVASION PEOPLE!

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    Is this a continuing attempt to turn our law enforcement officers into unarmed Bobbies like they have in England? We have seen how that is working out for them.

    It goes hand in hand with beanbag bullets.
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    BORDER PATROL OFFICERS TOLD RUN AND HIDE FROM ARMED ILLEGAL ALIENS

    By NWV News Writer Jim Kouri
    Posted 1:00 AM Eastern
    July 5, 2012
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    In what they termed "another nauseating series of Virtual Learning Center brainwashing courses that Border Patrol agents are forced to sit behind a computer for hours and endure," officials at the Border Patrol union reported their members are taught in an "Active Shooter" course that if agents encounter a shooter in a public place they are to "run away" and "hide."

    But on Saturday, while visiting Texas, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano had a different message, according to a government report.

    "If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become 'aggressive' and 'throw things' at him or her. We are then advised to 'call [local] law enforcement' and wait for their arrival, presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered," states the Arizona (Local 2544) Border Patrol web site.

    "These types of mandatory brainwashing courses and the idiocy that accompanies them are simply stunning when they are force-fed to law enforcement officers," state NBPC Local 2544 officials.

    "On the one hand, the Obama administration opposes local law enforcement officers being involved in immigration enforcement, and on the other hand the Border Patrol agents are taught to call the local cops when faced with violence being perpetrated by illegal aliens at U.S. borders," said former NYPD police sergeant James McMahon, now a security consultant and private investigator.

    "Are the lunatics now running the asylum? It's the most asinine instruction I've heard since [President Bill] Clinton issued an executive order to CIA agents prohibiting them from using 'unsavory characters' as informants back in the 1990's," McMahon told NewsWithViews.com.

    “It is always comforting to know that for those of us who carry a weapon when we are off-duty, if we should encounter such a situation, stop a shooter and save countless lives, we can look forward to being disciplined or fired by the Border Patrol because we should have run away to hide and then maybe thrown objects at the deranged killer instead of taking action and stopping him with a firearm,” the Local 2544 web site states.

    Meanwhile, on the heels of giving over 800,000 illegal aliens non-deportation privileges, the three top Obama immigration enforcement officials visited one of the nation's Southwest border states on Saturday in what was described as a 'dog and pony show' by several law enforcement officers.

    Secretary Janet Napolitano, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Director John Morton and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (U.S. Border Patrol) Acting Commissioner David V. Aguilar arrived in Dallas, TX, on Saturday to participate in the Annual National Latino Peace Officers Association’s (NLPOA) Training Conference, according to a press statement.

    Secretary Napolitano told conference participants that her Department is committed to working with federal, state, local, tribal and territorial law enforcement to combat evolving threats and protect our nation’s communities.

    "However, Napolitano made no mention of her nor President Barack Obama's punitive actions against the law enforcement community in Texas' neighbor, Arizona.

    Without hesitation, she stripped Arizona law enforcement officials of their authority to participate in combating illegal immigration through ICE's 287g program, which enables local police officers and sheriff's deputies to enforce immigration law in cooperation with federal law enforcement," said former NYPD police detective Iris Aquino, a former member of NLPOA.

    In fact, there's talk within the nation's capital of ending 287g altogether, according to members of the news media.

    "This administration is not serious about illegal immigration, drug enforcement or homeland security. It's just one 'dog and pony show' after another. Napolitano's visit to Texas was just more pandering and empty promises to the Latino voters," said Aquino, herself a Latino law enforcement veteran.

    What surprised many observers was when during the conference Secretary Napolitano and ICE Director Morton presented the NLPOA Officer of the Year Award posthumously to the family of ICE Special Agent Jaime Zapata. The ICE agent was assassinated in Mexico by members of Los Zetas drug cartel with at least one of the weapons allegedly linked to the Operation Fast and Furious debacle, although Napolitano and Morton made no mention of the gun-walking scandal.

    "I noticed that Napolitano and Aguilar never mentioned Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, who was murdered by a Mexican illegal alien using a Fast and Furious gun," said police lieutenant Stephen Ritter of the New York State Division of Housing Public Safety Department.

    "These political people have no shame... no shame whatsoever," Ritter added.

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    Yes, the lunatics are running the asylum. It's surreal.
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    This is just one mans opinion.. anyone with a gun should feel obligated to end quickly any violence he or she encounters.. and not by running away
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    Border Patrol union blasts Homeland Security instructions to 'run away' and 'hide' from gunmen


    By Perry Chiaramonte

    Published June 29, 2012

    FoxNews.com




    Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active shooter."

    It's one thing to tell civilian employees to cower under a desk if a gunman starts spraying fire in a confined area, say members of Tucson Local 2544/National Border Patrol Council, but to give armed law enforcement professionals the same advice is downright insulting. The instructions from DHS come in the form of pamphlets and a mandatory computer tutorial.

    “We are now taught in an ‘Active Shooter’ course that if we encounter a shooter in a public place we are to ‘run away’ and ‘hide’" union leader Brandon Judd wrote on the website of 3,300-member union local. “If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become ‘aggressive’ and ‘throw things’ at him or her. We are then advised to ‘call law enforcement’ and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered)."

    The FEMA-administered computer course, entitled “IS-907- Active Shooter: What You Can Do,” is a 45-minute tutorial that provides guidance to all employees on how to recognize indicators of possible workplace violence and what to do should their office be invaded by gunmen and focuses around three main options; either evacuate, hide out, or in dire circumstances, take action.

    Main Points of the "Active Shooter" training course

    Evacuate: If there is an accessible escape path, attempt to evacuate the premises.
    Hide out: If evacuation is not possible, find a place to hide where the active shooter is less likely to find you.
    Take action: As a last resort, and only when your life is in imminent danger, attempt to disrupt and/or incapacitate the active shooter.

    Once the course is completed, employees are urged to download additional materials including a summary booklet and pocket-sized card outlining protocol, which was also handed out to employees two months ago.

    One DHS employee told FoxNews.com the instruction cards were handed out to employees six weeks ago. At the time, he assumed they were only for civilian employees, not armed law enforcement officers within the department, which oversees the U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

    "Requiring BP agents to follow the same steps is egregious,” he said.

    DHS officials maintain that the Active Shooter course was designed for all employees—civilian and law-enforcement officers-- and no one should rush into a situation where they, or others around them, could get hurt.

    “The Department of Homeland Security takes very seriously its responsibility to protect all of its employees from threats that may surface in the workplace,” U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman Michael Friel said in a written statement to FoxNews.com

    “CBP workforce training is designed to prepare all employees, including leaders, managers, supervisors, law enforcement personnel and non-law enforcement personnel, to understand their own roles and the roles of their fellow employees in responding to threats. In an active shooter scenario, employees are taught to take actions that keep them alive.”

    But members of Local 2544 say they are obligated to protect the public in such a situation, whether they are on duty or not. Given the instructions, some wonder if they would be disciplined for taking down a gunman in a situation like the Fort Hood shooting or the January, 2011 case in Casa Adobes, in which a deranged gunmen shot 19 people, including Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Six people were killed.

    “It is always comforting to know that for those of us who carry a weapon when we are off-duty, if we should encounter such a situation, stop a shooter and save countless lives, we can look forward to being disciplined or fired by the Border Patrol because we should have run away to hide and then maybe thrown objects at the deranged killer instead of taking action and stopping him with a firearm,” the union local's website says.

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    Border agents told to run and hide. California law enforcement told to ignore. California law enforcement being laid off as cities go bankrupt. I really feel safe.

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    Come on.........This has got to be a sick joke! You all are not going to believe this are you?

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