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    Breaking: Democrats stop bid to send 6,000 troops to border

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    May 27, 10:36 AM EDT
    Democrats stop bid to send 6,000 troops to border

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama's Democratic allies in the Senate have repelled a move by presidential rival John McCain to send an additional 6,000 National Guard troops to the U.S-Mexico border.

    The Arizona Republican says the security situation along the order has deteriorated so badly that 3,000 guard troops are needed just to help protect his state. But McCain failed to muster the required 60 votes for his plan as the Senate continued debate on an a war funding bill.

    Obama on Tuesday promised to send 1,200 Guard troops to the border to support efforts to block drug trafficking and temporarily supplement Border Patrol agents until more agents can be trained.

    Former President George W. Bush sent thousands of Guard troops to the border in 2006.

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    The Washington Post
    Senate defeats McCain border security amendment
    By Paul Kane

    The Senate turned back an effort by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) Thursday to put 6,000 more security troops on the Mexican border, as Democrats instead suggested that President Obama's proposal for an additional deployment of a temporary, 1,200-person force was sufficient for now.

    The McCain measure, which needed 60 votes to be considered approved, fell short on a 51-46 vote as part of the Senate's broader consideration of a $59 billion spending bill that funds the troop surge into Afghanistan and other emergency measures. The border-security battle has become the most politically contentious issue surrounding what has otherwise become a routine passage of the war supplemental bill.

    Sensing the shifting ground, Obama proposed Tuesday a plan that would increase funding by $500 million and temporarily send 1,200 members of the National Guard to the border to help shore up the Border Patrol's efforts to clamp down on illegal immigrants and on security developments with Mexican drug cartels.

    But Republicans rejected Obama's effort as insufficient to deal with something they consider a national crisis.

    "While it's important to have additional resources there, even on a temporary basis, even on a limited basis, there's a whole lot more that we need to do. We need permanent solutions, not temporary solutions," Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), a member of GOP leadership and co-sponsor of McCain's amendment, told reporters Wednesday.

    Feelings toward Obama remained publicly raw after he visited the Senate Republican Conference, a 75-minute, closed-door huddle which provoked agitated Republicans to complain to reporters afterward about the president's efforts at bipartisanship. In particular, McCain made note Wednesday, during a speech on the Senate floor, that Obama's aides announced his new border plan 30 minutes after he left the GOP meeting and yet did not tell the senators what he was about to do.

    "You've got to laugh, in the spirit of bipartisanship," McCain said.

    Most Democrats rejected the GOP offer of 6,000 more troops as unnecessary given the latest Obama proposal. "It's sort of throwing an enormous amount of money at the problem that is not as carefully thought out, not as targeted and as effective, quite frankly, as President Obama's plan," Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said moments before the vote.

    Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), the chamber's lone Latino senator, criticized the McCain plan as "militarizing the border" and the "definition of insanity," because it continued the previous efforts at building up a troop presence even as the flow of illegal immigrants continued to flow in from Mexico. "It's a recipe for failure," Menendez said, arguing instead for a comprehensive immigration reform plan backed by Obama.

    By Paul Kane | May 27, 2010; 10:38 AM ET

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    anyone would be crazy not to know this was coming.

    Congress, especially the damn Dems are nothing more than a damn disgrace

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    "The McCain measure, which needed 60 votes to be considered approved, fell short on a 51-46 vote...."

    Actually that's a far closer vote than I would have thought, demonstrating the extent to which what Arizona has done has galvanized people of all political persuasions across the country, bringing attention to so many facets of our present crisis and the danger in which it places legal residents, their homes and businesses, the environment, and our very country.
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    This predictable outcome is also a good talking point for McCain to use against Hayworth, as McCain can say he wanted 6000 troops on the border.
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    Bush sent troops but all they could do was watch. I believe they may have made repairs to the border patrol vehicles, but just watching illegals and drug runners go by is useless.

    We want troops who do what they are supposed to do, actually protect the territory. That is why they get weapons training.

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    GA you forgot the Tennessee Guard who retreated when approached by mexican military or drug cartel people.

    most of them were used for observation, and repairs to both the fence and vehicles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Populist
    This predictable outcome is also a good talking point for McCain to use against Hayworth, as McCain can say he wanted 6000 troops on the border.
    You're right, McCain has been in the game a long time and knows an opportunity when he sees it. The border crisis affords him the opportunity to appear strong in an area where most Arizona voters have considered him weak, illegal immigration. Regardless of what he says or does concerning border security, make no mistake, he will still tell you to your face that he supports comprehensive immigration reform, otherwise known as amnesty, for illegal aliens. The man is an experienced gamer in the political arena and knows how to manipulate a situation to his advantage.

    I'm sure I am not the only one to notice all of the media time McCain has being getting on the issue lately. I'm seeing very little from Hayworth but McCain on the other hand has something in the news daily it seems. He wants more troops on the border, supports Arizona's new law, etc., etc, Yes, I'm suggesting the liberal media nows the difference between a RINO and a conservative. Now ask yourself, who would they rather see win between McCain and Hayworth?

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    HOW THE TRAITORS VOTED


    Vote Summary

    Question: On the Motion (Motion to Waive All Applicable Budgetary Discipline re: McCain Amdt. No. 4214 )

    Vote Number: 165 Vote Date: May 27, 2010, 10:06 AM

    Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Motion Rejected

    Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 4214 to H.R. 4899 (Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2010)

    Statement of Purpose: To provide for National Guard support to secure the southern land border of the United States.
    Vote Counts: YEAs 51...NAYs 46...Not Voting 3


    Grouped By Vote Position
    YEAs ---51

    Alexander (R-TN)
    Barrasso (R-WY), Baucus (D-MT), Bayh (D-IN), Bennet (D-CO), Bennett (R-UT), Bond (R-MO), Boxer (D-CA), Brown (R-MA), Brownback (R-KS), Bunning (R-KY), Burr (R-NC)
    Coburn (R-OK), Cochran (R-MS), Collins (R-ME), Corker (R-TN), Cornyn (R-TX), Crapo (R-ID)
    DeMint (R-SC)
    Ensign (R-NV), Enzi (R-WY)
    Feinstein (D-CA)
    Graham (R-SC), Grassley (R-IA), Gregg (R-NH)
    Hatch (R-UT), Hutchison (R-TX)
    Inhofe (R-OK), Isakson (R-GA)
    Johanns (R-NE)
    Kyl (R-AZ)
    LeMieux (R-FL), Lincoln (D-AR), Lugar (R-IN)
    McCain (R-AZ), McCaskill (D-MO), McConnell (R-KY), Murkowski (R-AK)
    Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE)
    Pryor (D-AR)
    Risch (R-ID), Roberts (R-KS)
    Sessions (R-AL), Shelby (R-AL), Snowe (R-ME)
    Tester (D-MT), Thune (R-SD)
    Vitter (R-LA)
    Webb (D-VA), Wicker (R-MS)

    NAYs ---46

    Akaka (D-HI)
    Begich (D-AK), Bingaman (D-NM), Brown (D-OH), Burris (D-IL)
    Cantwell (D-WA), Cardin (D-MD), Carper (D-DE), Casey (D-PA), Conrad (D-ND)
    Dodd (D-CT), Dorgan (D-ND), Durbin (D-IL)
    Feingold (D-WI), Franken (D-MN)
    Gillibrand (D-NY)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Inouye (D-HI)
    Johnson (D-SD)
    Kaufman (D-DE), Kerry (D-MA), Klobuchar (D-MN), Kohl (D-WI)
    Landrieu (D-LA), Lautenberg (D-NJ), Leahy (D-VT), Levin (D-MI), Lieberman (ID-CT)
    Menendez (D-NJ), Merkley (D-OR), Mikulski (D-MD), Murray (D-WA)
    Reed (D-RI), Reid (D-NV), Rockefeller (D-WV)
    Sanders (I-VT), Schumer (D-NY), Shaheen (D-NH), Specter (D-PA), Stabenow (D-MI)
    Udall (D-CO), Udall (D-NM)
    Voinovich (R-OH)
    Warner (D-VA), Whitehouse (D-RI), Wyden (D-OR)

    Not Voting - 3
    Byrd (D-WV), Chambliss (R-GA), Hagan (D-NC)


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    Voinovich (R-OH)"

    George Voinovich clearly favored amnesty legislation in 2006, but finally was browbeaten by his constituents into voting "No" on it. However, Voinovitch will be retiring at the end of 2010. I do not think it is "anti-Catholic" to point out that the loyality of Roman Catholic elected officials such as Voinovitch and Sam Brownback (R-KS), who also is retiring this year, clearly lies with the direction their church has taken on this issue and on the recommendations of Roman Catholic Administrators. There are several other Senators retiring this year in addition to a number of membrs in the House of Representatives, and that is why we should fear a "lame-duck sesssion" passage of amnesty legislation: I believe the latter is Menendez's main strategy to get "CIR legislation" into the Obama "win column" together with health care reform this year.
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