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    70% of Arms Seized in Mexico Come from US, Report Says

    70% of Arms Seized in Mexico Come from US, Report Says
    June 14, 2011


    Are U.S. arms manufacturers and dealers making money by supplying the weapons used in the drug violence that is costing thousands of lives in Mexico?

    A new report may give more ammunition to those who say, yes.

    About 70 percent of the guns seized in Mexico and submitted to a U.S. gun-tracing program came from the United States, according to a report released by three U.S. senators Monday.

    Of the 29,284 firearms recovered by authorities in Mexico in 2009 and 2010, 20,504 came from the United States, according to figures provided to the senators by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

    Most of those weapons — 15,131 — were U.S. made, while another 5,373 were of foreign manufacture but had moved through the United States into Mexico.

    The ATF said the remainder of the weapons total — 8,780 arms — were of "undetermined origin due to insufficient information provided."

    The figure of the number of guns arriving in Mexico from north of the border has been polemical ever since a June 2009 U.S. report covering earlier years said that 87 percent of guns seized in Mexico came from the United States.

    While the report did not specify why the percentage had changed, the most recent figures appear to included more gun-trace reports, as the reporting program in Mexico became easier to use.

    Evidence that U.S. weapons trafficking has been fueling a bloody drug war that has cost more than 35,000 lives in Mexico since late 2006 has angered many Mexicans.

    On Saturday, in a speech to the Mexican-American community in San Jose, California, President Felipe Calderón lashed out at the U.S. weapons industry.

    "I accuse the U.S. weapons industry of (responsibility for) the deaths of thousands of people that are occurring in Mexico," Calderón said. "It is for profit, for the profits that it makes for the weapons industry."

    The report, issued by Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California and two other senators, recommended background checks for sales at gun shows, a ban on the import of nonsporting weapons and the reinstatement of the assault weapons ban in force in the United States until 2004.

    Calderón endorsed calls for reinstating the ban on domestic sales of assault rifles, saying its expiration in 2004 may have played a roll in the increase of drug violence in Mexico.

    "You can clearly see how the violence began to grow in 2005, and of course it has gone on an upward spiral in the last six years," Calderón said.

    Based on reporting by the Associated Press.

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    Blah, blah, blah. Look no further than project "gunrunner" to see what the government is up to.
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    In other news 90% of illegals caught in the US came in through Mexico! Wonder if the 2 issues are connected? Just maybe they are....

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    I truely belive most of the wepons they have received in mexico are from the US goverment I have no proof but a gut feeling. Also wasn't it the same president who blames the US drug consumption as the reason behind the drug war and it makes it our fault so couldn't you state that mexicos consumption of fire arms is their problem not ours with the same logic? This is a sign we need to close our border now more than ever instead of working to put out the fires of the drug cartels in mexico and going after CRIMINALS IN MEXICO THEY ARE GOING TO COME DOWN ON THE AMERICAN CITIZAN!! At the very least mexico should be inspecting all traffic going across to their side of the border and take some responcibility for what enters their country!!

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    When the Mexico government captures guns which do you believe they would complain or submit numbers on,yep, anything from USA. Numbers are very easy to manipulate.

    Military style weapons wanted by the cartels are coming from foreign sources IMO, Iran,China,etc, cartel has deep pockets and to supply a large army like they have requires ship loads of ammo.

    Much of what is written in national media on guns in Mexico is to encourage American's to end the 2nd amendment
    I'm old with many opinions few solutions.

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    Blah, blah. Guns don't kill people, Mexican cartels kill people. If the U.S. effectively stopped guns from going south, the cartels would simply find another source. Perhaps El Presidente should stop trying to blame others for the violence in his country and go home and do his job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moptop
    I truely belive most of the wepons they have received in mexico are from the US goverment I have no proof but a gut feeling. Also wasn't it the same president who blames the US drug consumption as the reason behind the drug war and it makes it our fault so couldn't you state that mexicos consumption of fire arms is their problem not ours with the same logic? This is a sign we need to close our border now more than ever instead of working to put out the fires of the drug cartels in mexico and going after CRIMINALS IN MEXICO THEY ARE GOING TO COME DOWN ON THE AMERICAN CITIZAN!! At the very least mexico should be inspecting all traffic going across to their side of the border and take some responcibility for what enters their country!!
    moptop, I believe it has already been verified that most of the U.S. weapons found in cartel hands were stolen from or sold by the Mexican military to the scumbag cartels.
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    Ok I'm wrong about the US providing them but it doesn't change the end result of them tightening the laws for the rest of us

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    Quote Originally Posted by moptop
    Ok I'm wrong about the US providing them but it doesn't change the end result of them tightening the laws for the rest of us
    No, that doesn't mean you're wrong at all.
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