Thread: Cain's Electrified Border Joke: No Laughing Matter in Mexico

Cain's Electrified Border Joke: No Laughing Matter in Mexico

time.com
By Ioan Grillo
Mexico City Monday
Oct. 17, 2011

While Mexico is deeply divided over a tumultuous drug war and tough economic times, the nation can always find unity in one sacred cow issue: defending its migrants in El Norte. Almost every family in the country has members in the United States, many sweating on fields, construction sites or in restaurants and sending home to dollars to keep ramshackle villages and city barrios alive. So when Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain joked about a killer electric fence to keep migrants out, political electric shocks surged rapidly south of the Rio Grande. From pulpits by the border to editorial offices in the capital, priests and editors vented their anger at comments they called "stupid," "barbaric," and "shameful."

But even if Cain's comments by themselves can be dismissed as an unsuccessful attempt at humor that produced fury instead, Mexican commentators and congressman have voiced concern about a bigger political picture. In the run-up to the Republican primaries, several candidates have been outbidding each other over who can be toughest over the southern border. Within their discourses, the issue of illegal immigration has become mixed up with that of keeping Mexico's drug war from spilling into the U.S. Pundits here fear that if this rhetoric carries over into the 2012 presidential elections, it will exasperate both anti-migrant and cross-border tensions. "In this environment, the electoral weapon has been used to Satanize migrant workers and paint them as being the cause of the lack of jobs and insecurity," an editorial in Mexico City's La Jornada newspaper declared Monday. "Each one of these excessive verbal statements increases the danger, discrimination and exploitation that foreign workers — many Mexican — face in the United States."

Cain made his comments on Saturday at a campaign stop in Cookville, Tennessee. "We'll have a real fence, 20 feet high with barbed wire, electrified, with a sign on the other side that says, 'It can kill you,' " Cain said to raucous applause. "What do you mean insensitive? What is insensitive is when they come to the United States across our border and kill our citizens and kill our border patrol people." The following day, Cain clarified the statement was a joke, not a real proposal. "That is not a serious plan," Cain said. "I've also said America needs to get a sense of humor. That is a joke, okay."

However, few in Mexico could see the funny side of the comments. The Bishop of Ciudad Juárez Renato Ascencio León said following his Sunday mass that the Republican candidate was "ridiculous." "In many places such as Germany they are taking down barriers. Here they are putting them up," he said. "Many come from the United States into Mexico without any papers at all." On a national radio show, popular journalist Carmen Aristegui said Cain's comments were gravely concerning. "We are seeing a rise in extremism in the United States," Aristegui said. "These ideas are absurd, stupid."

On the streets of Mexico City, many locals said they were concerned about the tone in the American electoral debate. "How can you joke about killing poor people who are searching for a better life?" asks Jaime Carrillo, 42, an accountant. "And what if this guy became president? These kind of comments would cause tension between our countries." Presidential hopeful Rick Perry also provoked ire earlier this month when he suggested that U.S. troops may have to cross into Mexico to fight drug cartels. Mexico's ambassador to the U.S. swiftly replied that that "U.S. troops on Mexican soil is not on the table." Candidate Mitt Romney has also waded into the issue, criticizing Perry for being too soft on the border, while saying, "Illegal immigration burdens us and is a threat."

Migrant activists point out that the candidates are actually creating heat over an issue that has already been acted on in recent years. The number of undocumented migrants entering the United States has dropped sharply over the last decade, thanks to increased security and fewer American jobs. Back in 2000, the border patrol made more than 1.6 million apprehensions on the southern border. This fell to just over one million in 2005 and to 404,000 by last year.

In a migrant shelter in the northern edge of Mexico City, several hopefuls lamented that it is much tougher to cross the border than before. "We have to find new places to get over and there are more agents," says Manuel de Jesus Contreras, 37, who had traveled from Honduras. Contreras had previously worked as security guard in Seattle, Washington but was deported because of a lack of papers. "The job situation in the United States is harder now as well. But I am determined to make it and find something. I have children to feed. I don't want to hurt or kill anybody. I just want to be able to support my family."

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"Each one of these excessive verbal statements increases the danger, discrimination and exploitation that foreign workers — many Mexican — face in the United States."

Well then maybe it's time to call them all home since you're soooo concerned / sarcasm off

I bet mexico was SHOCKED to hear that.

10% of Mexico's population in the U.S. taking advantage of our generosity is also no laughing matter. ( mod edit) Joke's on you Mexico. BTW.

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Originally Posted by ReggieMay

10% of Mexico's population in the U.S. taking advantage of our generosity is also no laughing matter. Joke's on you Mexico. BTW. what did the folks in Mexico (MOD EDIT)?

I hope you didnt think i thought it was a laughing matter because i dont.Just trying to be alittle funny is all. ( mod edit)If i wasnt against them i dang sure wouldnt be on ALIPAC.

Just make sure that electricity is "green" , has no government subsidies and I'm good with it.