Thread: Tear down this wall

Whoever wrote this is a complete idiot! It's Americans like this who would sell their own family members down the river. Most of these illegals have no wish to become Americans, they only want to feed off Americans. The price of the wall is cheap if it stops the destruction of our country and prevents it becoming a third world cesspool. Wake up America, you've being invaded while you sleep.

And what is a outrageous use of taxpayer's money is allowing these illegals to steal it every day.

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Tear down this wall
Outrageous price tag should doom border fence
Article Last Updated: 01/01/2007 05:07:33 PM PST

HERE'S a classic example of government accounting at work: When the idea was first pitched to build an 850-mile fence across the U.S.-Mexico border, Congress estimated the cost would come to $7 billion. Now we find out the wall would actually cost nearly 10 times that - $60 billion.

It's time to drop this idea.

Even the $60 billion figure may be low. The estimate, which comes from a Congressional Research Service report, doesn't include other likely expenses, like private property that would need to be purchased in Texas.

Plus there's maintenance. The CRS says the fence would cost $70 million per mile to keep up over the course of its predicted 25-year life span .

Do the math: $70 million a mile times the 850-mile length of the fence comes to a staggering $59.5 billion in maintenance costs.

Add that to the initial $60 billion for construction, and we're looking at what could easily be a $120 billion fence - one that would presumably need to be replaced in a little over two decades.

To get a sense of how much money we're talking about, consider that last November Californians agreed to take on historic amounts of debt to improve the state's infrastructure. To address transportation,
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levee, school, water and housing needs that have been neglected for decades, we agreed to borrow $43 billion to be repaid over the course of 30 years.

The nation's cost of erecting and maintaining this fence would be nearly three times what Californians have allotted for the state's most critical infrastructure needs.

That's an outrageous misuse of taxpayer money.

Even if the wall would end all illegal immigration, which it can't, it would still be a bad deal. Assuming an annual inflow of 500,000 illegal immigrants over the next 25 years, we would be paying more than $10,000 per illegal border-crossing stopped. And in truth, the price would be much higher than that, as many illegal crossings would still continue through tunnels and gaps in the fence or by other means.

For all that money, it would probably be cheaper for the U.S. government to simply buy homes for all would-be illegal-immigrant families in their native countries - and pay them a stipend - to stay put.

Not that any such outlandish policies are necessary. The only practical way to reduce illegal immigration is and has always been to increase legal immigration: Create a sensible way for people to enter the country legally, get identified, pay taxes and be self-sufficient.

If legal immigration were rationalized, illegal immigration would dry up for the most part.

Of course, there will always be a need to safeguard against criminals, terrorists and other dangerous types who try to enter the country. But a wall isn't going to stop this dedicated contingent.

And politically popular though a fence may be - the legislation sailed through the U.S. Senate last year with 80 votes, including those of both California senators - the cost/benefit ratio is way out of whack.

Mr. Bush, Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Reid: Tear down this wall - and grapple with the real problem of illegal immigration.

Originally Posted by Crusader01

The only practical way to reduce illegal immigration is and has always been to increase legal immigration: Create a sensible way for people to enter the country legally, get identified, pay taxes and be self-sufficient.

If legal immigration were rationalized, illegal immigration would dry up for the most part.

In other words, legalize everyone who is here illegally, and create a system (guest worker) where anyone who wants to come in can do so legally. Presto!! Illegal immigration problem solved!

This writer is an idiot. They are claiming the fence would cost 60 billion? What are they making the posts out of, pure gold?
Even if it cost that much, it would be worth it. Besides, why are they squaking about 60 billion? Hell the hospitals alone are losing that a year.

For all that money, it would probably be cheaper for the U.S. government to simply buy homes for all would-be illegal-immigrant families in their native countries - and pay them a stipend - to stay put.

Maybe the Government of Mexico and other illegal counrties should do this....for their own people
We will take the money... OUR money... the Peoples Money and build the DAMN FENCE

60 Billions??? bilions???

This guy must have been daydreaming with a
towell on his head when he came up with
that number.

I bet we could buy all the fence stuff we need in bulk at a SAMS Club for way less..LOL...I guess this writer never watched the PRICE IS RIGHT or LETS MAKE A DEAL....
Mr Bob Barker Sir my ... bid is 30 million (a dollar for every illegal in the USA)
Hey that is a fund raising idea...we will ask every illegal Mexican for a dollar ....

I question of the so-called facts the author of this piece reports because he can't even get an extremely well known fact correct - the length of the border fence! The fence is 700-miles, not 850-miles. This fact obviously brings into question his mathmatical abilities.

I'm with odiesback, where did the writer come up with $60 billion? Has anyone else seen this number quoted elsewhere? If it were to cost our government $60 billion to construct the 700-mile fence, than they obviously need to do a better job of pricing the competition because they most certainly didn't accept the lowest bid on the job. Of course nothing suprises me, especially when dealing with a government that overpays for everthing. It wasn't that many years ago they were caught paying $5,000 per toilet seat for military aircraft. If the fence price is $60 billion - governmental corruption is working overtime! With that said, I still don't think the fence price is $60 billion.

Originally Posted by MW

I question of the so-called facts the author of this piece reports because he can't even get an extremely well known fact correct - the length of the border fence! The fence is 700-miles, not 850-miles. This fact obviously brings into question his mathmatical abilities.

I'm with odiesback, where did the writer come up with $60 billion? Has anyone else seen this number quoted elsewhere? If it were to cost our government $60 billion to construct the 700-mile fence, than they obviously need to do a better job of pricing the competition because they most certainly didn't accept the lowest bid on the job. Of course nothing suprises me, especially when dealing with a government that overpays for everthing. It wasn't that many years ago they were caught paying $5,000 per toilet seat for military aircraft. If the fence price is $60 billion - governmental corruption is working overtime! With that said, I still don't think the fence price is $60 billion.

Yes me too. Why not have the illegals in this country build it, then when it is finished like I said before put them on the other side of the wall?

I only caught the tail end of a talk radio show a while back but the caller was talking about setting up a memorial fund for all the victims of 9/11 and using the money to buy a fence post with one of the victims name on it making the intire wall a memorial to those that died that day.
I think he may have a website but I haven't been able to find it.

We're already paying for a 2100 mile fence by supporting 12 to twenty million illegal migrants who are leaching off of American society.
If we're paying for it anyway we might as well have it as not.
If we can spend many billions of dollars elsewhere and Americans want a fence, there is no excuse not to build it.