Thread: Cardinals: Immigration at "dark moment"

Two Catholic cardinals called the current U.S. immigration situation "a terrible crisis" and "a dark moment in our nation's history" in remarks they made July 28 at the opening Mass and plenary session of the 2008 National Migration Conference.

This is not about IMMIGRATION! This is about a country having every right to exclude and deport those who have entered this country in violation of federal immigration law!

An illegal invader is not an immigrant!!

"Two Catholic cardinals called the current U.S. immigration situation "a terrible crisis" and "a dark moment in our nation's history" in remarks they made July 28 at the opening Mass and plenary session of the 2008 National Migration Conference."

Well, they got that part right .. it is a "terrible crisis" and a "dark moment in our nation's history" which is why organizations like ALIPAC, NC Listen, NumbersUSA, FAIR, Minutemen and soooo many others are taking action to take our country back and send these illegal aliens home to their land of citizenship.

But the Cardinal Truth ended in their first paragraph. How about that?!!! Cardinals using their position in their 501 C 3 Tax Exempt Organization to promote subversive anti-law, anti-American activities for illegal aliens?!!

It's an irony of treason someone from the IRS, Justice Department and DHS should be investigating.

Originally Posted by Judy

"Two Catholic cardinals called the current U.S. immigration situation "a terrible crisis" and "a dark moment in our nation's history" in remarks they made July 28 at the opening Mass and plenary session of the 2008 National Migration Conference."

Well, they got that part right .. it is a "terrible crisis" and a "dark moment in our nation's history" which is why organizations like ALIPAC, NC Listen, NumbersUSA, FAIR, Minutemen and soooo many others are taking action to take our country back and send these illegal aliens home to their land of citizenship.

But the Cardinal Truth ended in their first paragraph. How about that?!!! Cardinals using their position in their 501 C 3 Tax Exempt Organization to promote subversive anti-law, anti-American activities for illegal aliens?!!

It's an irony of treason someone from the IRS, Justice Department and DHS should be investigating.

Well said Judy!!

Thank you, NoBueno.

Originally Posted by NoBueno

This is not about IMMIGRATION! This is about a country having every right to exclude and deport those who have entered this country in violation of federal immigration law!

I agree NB. And I would add that in addition to millions of illegal aliens (of course, for their own selfish reasons, the cardinals prefer those from their own religion) violating our laws, we the American people have the right to decide what levels and types of immigration overall are best for US, for OUR country. For far too long we have not had OUR voices heard in this debate, on this nation-changing issue -- while the special interests have had their way.

This is the same as having the leadership of an invading army holding meetings in "your" country protesting that you are heartlessly resisting "their" invasion!

The Elitist Politicians, their Elitist Contributors. Elitist Big Labor, Elitist Big Religion, Chamber of Commerce, Elitist Special Interest Groups, and former Elitist presidents of Third World Countries consider United States citizens only as “units of laborâ€

Lordy, Lordy we are to roll over for the Catholic, Vatican Government, of Italy. One of my children was explaining to me the power of the Pope; when he was in America visiting not so long ago. I did not know that the Vatican is a state into itself? Probably one of the richest bankers of the world

Then within my recent history I have learned the role they played in Germany
during WWII. More and more history does need to be reviewed.

Open to learning more, here.

Well, people, what is the next step? I have been posting notices of this conference for the last three months trying to get someone close to the DC area to attend and take notes. Nary a response from anyone...now it is underway and obviously a hot topic. Kinda late to send anyone now. Well, I guess we could go from their press releases and other statements.

I have contacted someone who lives in the area and has contacted a law firm for professional advice. But we really needed an observer. Is anyone willing to do some research? you can find some of the major participants here:
http://nationalmigrationconference.org/

Following is a link to an article on the same subject, I have left a comment to the source article but as of now it has not been displayed, maybe it was not PC enough:

http://www.catholic.org/politics/story. ... 35#comment

A Cardinal Speaks to Immigration
7/29/2008
Zenit News Agency (www.zenit.org)

The Cardinal called for a "political action explicit and comprehensive, that does not turn the immigrant into the scapegoat for other social crucial issues, nor a threat to security and stability."

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WASHINGTON, D.C. (Zenit) - The phenomenon of migration contributes to making the true face of the universal Church visible, says a Vatican official.

Cardinal Renato Martino, president of the Pontifical Council for Migrants and Travelers, affirmed this in a message sent to the 2008 National Migration Conference, sponsored by the U.S. bishops, and under way in Washington, D.C. The theme of the conference is "Renewing Hope, Seeking Justice."

The cardinal began his message affirming the importance of underscoring the positive aspects of migration, "especially in the perspective of the pastoral care of the Church."

Referring to "Erga Migrantes Caritas Cristi," a 2004 instruction from that pastoral council, the prelate said the document views the migration phenomenon under a new light.

"The passage from monocultural to multicultural societies can be a sign of the living presence of God in history and in the community of mankind, for it offers a providential opportunity for the fulfillment of God's plan for a universal communion," the cardinal cited.

He added: "Moving the focus from the phenomenon itself to the people going through migration, it must be recognized that 'migrants, too, can be the hidden providential builders of such a universal fraternity together with many other brothers and sisters. They offer the Church the opportunity to realize more concretely its identity as communion and its missionary vocation.'

"Therefore, broadening even more the scope of this vision, it continues: 'Today's migrations may be considered a call, albeit a mysterious one, to the Kingdom of God, already present in his Church, which is its beginning, and an instrument of Providence to further the unity of the human family and peace.'"

The pontifical council instruction, Cardinal Martino affirmed, "demonstrates that 'the migration phenomenon, by bringing together persons of different nationalities, ethnic origins, and religions into contact, contributes to making the true face of the Church visible and brings out the value of migrations from the point of view of ecumenism and missionary work and dialogue.'"

Christian reaction

The Vatican official's message went on to consider the Church's call to Christians in the face of the migration phenomenon.

"A simplistic vision of the difficulties must give way to a global vision of all the human experiences that enter into the confrontation, the dialogue, the enrichment, and the interchange between different peoples," he said. "The development of an approach that be intercultural, ecumenical, and interreligious is absolutely necessary, it demands the converging of a great number of responsibilities and offers new opportunities."

The cardinal added that it is "expedient also to develop a political action explicit and comprehensive, that does not turn the immigrant into the scapegoat for other social crucial issues, nor a threat to security and stability."

Again citing "Erga Migrantes Caritas Cristi," he said, "The precarious situation of so many foreigners, which should arouse everyone's solidarity, instead brings about fear in many, who feel that immigrants are a burden, regard them with suspicion and even consider them a danger and a threat. This often provokes manifestations of intolerance, xenophobia and racism."

"The basis for the action of the Church, instead, is the affirmation that all persons are equal, well beyond the differences deriving from origin, language and culture, in the belief of the unity of the human family," the cardinal affirmed.

"The approach of the Catholic Church, therefore, affirms the central role and sacred character of the human being independently from his or her regular or irregular legal status, most of all in cases of defenselessness and marginalization, taking also into due account the family. Not only, the Church is more and more convinced that making the most of the ethical-religious dimension of migration is the surest way to reach also other goals of high human and cultural value."