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    Collapse of Faith, Collapse of Europe

    Heard about this on Prager. More people leaving Netherlands and Germany than coming in. The citizens are giving it up.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/brussels102606.htm

    Collapse of Faith, Collapse of Europe
    The Rape of Europe
    By Paul Belien, Paul Belien

    Thursday, October 26, 2006

    The German author Henryk M. Broder recently told the Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant (12 October) that young Europeans who love freedom, better emigrate. Europe as we know it will no longer exist 20 years from now. Whilst sitting on a terrace in Berlin, Broder pointed to the other customers and the passers-by and said melancholically: "We are watching the world of yesterday."

    Europe is turning Muslim. As Broder is sixty years old he is not going to emigrate himself. "I am too old," he said. However, he urged young people to get out and "move to Australia or New Zealand. That is the only option they have if they want to avoid the plagues that will turn the old continent uninhabitable."

    Many Germans and Dutch, apparently, did not wait for Broder's advice. The number of emigrants leaving the Netherlands and Germany has already surpassed the number of immigrants moving in. One does not have to be prophetic to predict, like Henryk Broder, that Europe is becoming Islamic. Just consider the demographics. The number of Muslims in contemporary Europe is estimated to be 50 million. It is expected to double in twenty years. By 2025, one third of all European children will be born to Muslim families. Today Mohammed is already the most popular name for new-born boys in Brussels, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and other major European cities.

    Broder is convinced that the Europeans are not willing to oppose islamization. "The dominant ethos," he told De Volkskrant, "is perfectly voiced by the stupid blonde woman author with whom I recently debated. She said that it is sometimes better to let yourself be raped than to risk serious injuries while resisting. She said it is sometimes better to avoid fighting than run the risk of death."

    In a recent op-ed piece in the Brussels newspaper De Standaard (23 October) the Dutch (gay and self-declared "humanist") author Oscar Van den Boogaard refers to Broder's interview. Van den Boogaard says that to him coping with the islamization of Europe is like "a process of mourning." He is overwhelmed by a "feeling of sadness." "I am not a warrior," he says, "but who is? I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it."

    As Tom Bethell wrote in this month's American Spectator: "Just at the most basic level of demography the secular-humanist option is not working." But there is more to it than the fact that non-religious people tend not to have as many children as religious people, because many of them prefer to "enjoy" freedom rather than renounce it for the sake of children. Secularists, it seems to me, are also less keen on fighting. Since they do not believe in an afterlife, this life is the only thing they have to lose. Hence they will rather accept submission than fight. Like the German feminist Broder referred to, they prefer to be raped than to resist.

    "If faith collapses, civilization goes with it," says Bethell. That is the real cause of the closing of civilization in Europe. Islamization is simply the consequence. The very word Islam means "submission" and the secularists have submitted already. Many Europeans have already become Muslims, though they do not realize it or do not want to admit it.

    Some of the people I meet in the U.S. are particularly worried about the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe. They are correct when they fear that anti-Semitism is also on the rise among non-immigrant Europeans. The latter hate people with a fighting spirit. Contemporary anti-Semitism in Europe (at least when coming from native Europeans) is related to anti-Americanism. People who are not prepared to resist and are eager to submit, hate others who do not want to submit and are prepared to fight. They hate them because they are afraid that the latter will endanger their lives as well. In their view everyone must submit.

    This is why they have come to hate Israel and America so much, and the small band of European "islamophobes" who dare to talk about what they see happening around them. West Europeans have to choose between submission (islam) or death. I fear, like Broder, that they have chosen submission * just like in former days when they preferred to be red rather than dead.
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    I was in Germany 3 weeks ago for 10 days. It's exactly as
    the author says. I stayed with a friend & they complain about these
    issues but don't do anything. And they see how their humanist
    tendancies are being used against them, but they have no faith
    in political solutions whatsoever. I told my friend I was
    really sad because in school we always read JFK's Berlin speech &
    how West Germany had a better standard of living & democracy
    works & they needed a wall to keep them out & blah blah blah.
    I said it's sad to see you throw it all away. I said all this on his
    balcony as the church bells were ringing all around on
    Sunday morning & I thought how sad a lot of Germans from
    past times would be.

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    They have only themselves to blame. If they want something done about it they should raise concerns and lobby for their interests.

    This is probably just what the globalists want to happen. They ultimately want everyone to lose these nationalist additudes and let it become a free for all. They better wake up and smell the coffee. This is just my opinion.
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    CCUSA you are right but the whole politically correct thing comes largely into play here. If a person is anything other than anglo (white) they can pretty much say what ever they want... however if a person is white they better not say anything or they will be called every name in the book. And we have all seen if you are African-American, Hispanic, etc. and side with the white people are labeled just the same. I know in this country white people are just bombarded with "white guilt" and many fall for it. I would have to assume the same thing is going on in many larger European white countries.

    That being said it is time to throw all of the politically correctness off and stand up for ourselves.

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    I say take a damn stand weather your politicians will or not. If you don't take a stand eventually there will be nowhere to run/move to.
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    The guilt factor really does come into play in Europe. In France, the government accepted just about anyone in from their former colonies. Those people were considered citizens much the same way that Puerto Ricans are considered US citizens.

    Their politicians sold them out, too. The PC is 10 times worse there than here if you can believe that. The people do share some of the responsibility, though. They just wanted to live "the good life" and not be affected by anything, so they closed their eyes to what was going on. They are so adverse to any kind of confrontation and they try to appease.

    Now, entire communities have been taken over. My mother lived in Aulnay sois Bois (a Paris suburb) which is now completely Muslim. They just about burned it down last fall. These communities have become "no go" zones to the French police. The ethnic French keep moving farther and farther out into the countryside to try to get away from it. Pretty soon there won't be anywhere else to move.

    Some people think that Europe is getting what they deserve and in some ways I share that view. However, an Islamic Europe, with all of their resources (and nukes) is not in the US best interests.

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    Well you know what!

    Remember in school "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me?" Time do develope a tough skin people. It's words and mind games. Do I feel guilty for trying to protect my country and my kids future? He_ _ NO! Stop being crippled by political correctness! It is only being used to control us! And by the way those that keep using the race card use it to enrich themselves and keep them rolling in dough! I judge by character not by color!
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