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    Quote Originally Posted by busseysmom2 View Post
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    In a case that pits individual rights against kids' safety, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled on Thursday that it was appropriate for school officials to ban students at a San Jose, California, area high school from wearing American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo. The May 5th holiday, popular in the United States but largely unrecognized in Mexico, commemorates the 1862 Battle of Puebla and celebrates Mexican culture, heritage, and pride.

    The ruling stems from a controversial incident in 2010 when five students were told by administrators at Live Oak High School (which has a history of racial tension and gang violence) to either turn their American flag T-shirts inside out or go home. In a unanimous decision, the court cited two instances where students had been threatened with violence for wearing the flag. In 2009, some students of Mexican descent told an assistant principal they would "f--- up" other kids who were chanting "USA" around a flag they had hung from a tree on the school campus. The next year, students wearing the flag tees were warned by text messages and phone calls that gang members would come to the school and beat them up. Because only shirts with the American flag were targeted, school officials didn't ban shirts bearing images of other countries' flags, including the Mexican flag. In response to the ban, a group of parents sued the district, alleging violation of the teens' First Amendment rights. The school district has not responded to Yahoo Shine's request for comment.


    The court pointed out that under previous law, it is indeed legal to restrict high school students' free speech because of safety concerns. The Live Oak dress code also states, "The school has the right to request that any student dressing inappropriately for school will change into other clothes, be sent home to change, and/or be subject to disciplinary action." Writing for the panel of three judges, 9th Circuit Judge M. Margaret McKeown stated, "Our role is not to second-guess the decision to have a Cinco de Mayo celebration or the precautions put in place to avoid violence. ... [The events] made it reasonable for school officials to proceed as though the threat of a potentially violent disturbance was real." However, some parents are still threatening to take the case all the way to the Supreme Court. "This is the United States of America," Kendall Jones, whose son was one of the students banned from wearing a shirt depicting the American flag, told the San Jose Mercury News. "The idea that it's offensive to wear patriotic clothing … regardless of what day it is, is unconscionable to me."
    School clothing bans have become common across the country in recent years, as administrators have cracked down on everything from leggings to NRA T-shirts to UGGS. Last year a Michigan school told middle-schoolers who were wearing T-shirts memorializing a friend who had died from leukemia to change tops or cover up the friend's name printed on the shirt (administrators later apologized and reversed their decision). Not surprisingly, the American flag T-shirt case is particularly controversial and has strong supporters on both sides of the issue.
    The court ruling appears to be on firm ground because of legal precedent, but blogging about the case, Eugene Volokh, a professor of law at UCLA and specialist in free speech, says it's about far more than T-shirts and that there are some serious issues at stake. "This is a classic 'heckler's veto' — thugs threatening to attack the speaker, and government officials suppressing the speech to prevent such violence," he wrote. "The school taught its students a simple lesson: If you dislike speech and want it suppressed, then you can get what you want by threatening violence against the speakers." However, after the decision, school district superintendent Steve Betando said he felt "relieved." From his point of view in the trenches of a challenged school, the court gave administrators the power to avert potential harm to their students.
    This is still USA( NOT MEXICO YOU WANT TO BE USA CITIZEN WELL THIS IS HOW WE SAY EVERY THING IN ENGLISH
    OUR( COLOR ARE RED WHITE & BLUE ) WHY MEXICO DAY COME AROUND YOU WANT TO HAVE A PARTY WELL IT DON'T WORK THAT WAY & YOU SAY IM USA CITIZEN NO YOU ARE NOT . YOUR FAMILY DID NOT COME IN THE RIGHT WAY AT ALL . SO DON'T COME & SAY WE ARE A USA YOUR NOT . SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE OUR WAY'S & HOW WE DO THING GO BACK HOME
    GOD BLESS THE GOOD OLD USA

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    Everyone needs to wear the US flag, lapel pin or at least red,white and blue EVERY DAY!!! 1 st Amendment rights and national pride. ....
    deport the 9 th circuit court!!!!!

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    Two federal courts have ruled Obama in contempt of court, one for his illegally banning offshore drilling during the Gulf oil rig disaster and another requiring him to give testimony over the "birther" thing.

    If Obama can ignore the Federal court rulings, why should common citizens have to obey the capricious rulings by political hacks pretending to be judges? Every patriot American kid in that school should wear American flag T shirts every day. The parents really need to go to the wall over this thing.

    Look what this court ruling does, it, in effect, allows hoodlum gangs to write the laws by threaten violence. And thus gangs of children are coopting the role of government. That the courts would vicariously validate the writing of laws by children gangs is sick beyond description. The appropriate answer is for the government to assert its supremacy and issue a warning that gang members threatening violence will not be tolerated and order local authorities to use whatever police activity necessary to protect students. They used US Federal Marshalls to force integration of the schools in the South during the early Civil Rights era.

    Of curse we know what is going on don't we. A great number of those in the government do not want to defend this country, its culture, its institutions, its freedom. They have decided that the United States will become Mexican.
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    People are always asking what can I do? Well here is one big thing: "OPERATION AMERICAN SPRING" 16 MAY 2014 IN WASHINGTON DC. PROTEST TO DEMAND THE RESIGNATIONS OF BAROQUE OBAMA, ERIC HOLDER AND OTHERS IN OBAMA'S MARXIST JUNTA.

    For more information Google or Bing "Operation American Spring."

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