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    Looks like they better get to steppin!
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080830/ap_ ... ush_gustav

    FEMA says Gustav soon to be rated Category 5 stormBy JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer
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    WASHINGTON - The government's disaster relief chief says Hurricane Gustav is growing into a monster Category 5 storm.

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    The storm that hit Cuba Saturday could reach landfall along the Gulf Coast by early Tuesday.

    Federal Emergency Management Agency chief David Paulison told reporters several times at a briefing Saturday that the storm was strengthening into a Category 5 hurricane.

    FEMA officials said Bill Read, the director of the National Hurricane Center, interrupted an afternoon teleconference involving the agency, Gulf Coast states and the National Weather Service to say he is going to issue a special advisory statement raising Gustav to Category 5. That means winds greater than 155 mph and a storm surge greater than 18 feet above normal.

    Word about the Category 5 development reached FEMA shortly before Paulison briefed reporters.

    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush, confronted with the prospect of a second monster hurricane striking the still-battered Gulf Coast, checked in with governors and federal officials Saturday to make sure Washington was doing all it can.

    The president called state leaders in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Texas in the early morning from the White House before heading out for a 90-minute bike ride, spokesman Scott Stanzel said. Those states are in the potential path of Hurricane Gustav, which has been cutting a deadly route through the Caribbean and swelled into a fearsome Category 4 hurricane Saturday.

    It was expected to cross Cuba's cigar country before moving into the Gulf of Mexico, where it could gather even more strength. Gustav could reach the U.S. by early Tuesday, anywhere from the Florida Panhandle to Texas. But just three years after Hurricane Katrina drowned New Orleans, a calamity from which the city still is not nearly recovered, it appears very likely to get slammed again, by at least tropical-storm-force winds if not worse.

    Bush also received regular updates from aides about the storm's path and the government's preparations.

    The president asked each governor what was needed from the federal government, Stanzel said. Bush praised them for mobilizing their states so effectively to get ready.

    "He told each of the governors that federal officials were monitoring Hurricane Gustav very closely," Stanzel said. "President Bush pledged the full support of the federal government."

    The Bush White House was badly burned by its fumbling response after Katrina struck the Gulf Coast in August 2005. Bush's image as a strong leader has never entirely rebounded, even though he has labored to improve on the Katrina performance since by displaying his concern and effectiveness in times of disaster since.

    On Friday, Bush pre-emptively declared states of emergency for Louisiana and Texas. Such a move is rarely taken before a disaster hits. The declaration clears the way for federal aid to supplement state and local efforts and formalizes coordination. The administration did the same thing before Katrina struck.

    Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Federal Emergency Management Agency chief David Paulison were in the region monitoring developments. Equipment was put in position and safe shelters readied, with cots, blankets and hygiene kits en route.

    The White House kept a close eye on developments to see whether Bush might need to change his plans to travel to St. Paul, Minn., on Monday to address the Republican National Convention. White House press secretary Dana Perino said such decisions probably would not be made until the last minute.

    One of the reasons Bush was so criticized after Katrina was that he stuck to a schedule that took him from his ranch in Texas on a two-day trip to Arizona and California. There, he promoted a Medicare proposal while making just scant references to Katrina even as it slammed the Gulf Coast. Bush even happily strummed a guitar backstage at one event. He did not return to Washington until two days after the storm and did not visit the region until five days after.

    This sort of dilemma also could have implications for the GOP convention as a whole. If the storm's landfall is serious, Republican John McCain said he probably would rethink allowing the four-day political gathering to continue.

    "It just wouldn't be appropriate to have a festive occasion while a near tragedy or a terrible challenge is presented in the form of a natural disaster," McCain said in an interview taped Saturday with "Fox News Sunday." "So we're monitoring it from day to day and I'm saying a few prayers too."

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    [quote="vortex"][quote]"The problem is, there will be immigration people there and we're all undocumented," Soto said.


    They all flocked there after Katrina. Now their has been stealing and other crime due to no jobs there.
    Oh well, I don't care ... I await the lawsuit by The La Raza pukes.
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    If the storm turns south we can put them on a boat and they can be home by tomorrow.
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    Good point, Worried American. After hurricane Andrew in 1992 the illegals increased with the prospect of underbidding American contractors to rebuild in Homestead FL and other areas of damage. Of course, the work these guys did was not up to then-current code and led to the toughening of the Southern Building Code where every new window installed had to pass a test of 110 mph winds and every new house had to have major hurricane straps with stronger nails holding the roof on.
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    Are you kidding ? They can't wait for everyone to leave so they can just loot the place . Just like in mehico.

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    Of course, the work these guys did was not up to then-current code and led to the toughening of the Southern Building Code where every new window installed had to pass a test of 110 mph winds and every new house had to have major hurricane straps with stronger nails holding the roof on.
    They sure came here after the big tornado and they're falling apart around you without any weather to consider. No worries about whether these will be standing 100 years from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmarincic
    If the storm turns south we can put them on a boat and they can be home by tomorrow.
    Man, I got a good snicker out of that! But in all seriousness... would you rather be deported or possibly die in a hurricane? I pray NO funding goes to help these invaders should N.O. get hit. AMERICANS first, we are ultimately paying for it so it should go to us first.

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    New Orleans gets ready as Gustav strengthens

    New Orleans gets ready as Gustav strengthens

    By BECKY BOHRER, Associated Press Writer
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    NEW ORLEANS - Scarred by still-fresh memories of Katrina and spooked by Hurricane Gustav's rapid move toward Category 5 strength, a million residents of the Gulf Coast fled on Saturday — well ahead of the official order to get out of the way of a storm taking dead aim at Louisiana.

    Residents took to buses, trains, planes and car — clogging roadways leading away from New Orleans, still reeling three years after Hurricane Katrina flooded 80 percent of the city and killed about 1,600 across the region.

    Gustav had already killed more than 80 people in the Caribbean, and if current forecasts hold up, it would make landfall early Tuesday morning along Louisiana's central coast.

    That would spare New Orleans from a direct hit, but forecasters warned it was still too soon to say exactly where the storm will go. Residents weren't taking any chances judging by the bumper-to-bumper traffic pouring from the city. Gas stations along interstate highways were running out of fuel, and phone circuits were jammed.

    Forecasters at the National Hurricane Center said they were surprised at how quickly Gustav gained strength as it charged toward Cuba. It went from a tropical storm to a Category 4 hurricane in about 24 hours, and was likely to become a Category 5 — with sustained winds of 156 mph or more — by Sunday.

    "That puts a different light on our evacuations and hopefully that will send a very clear message to the people in the Gulf Coast to really pay attention," said Federal Emergency Management Agency chief David Paulison.

    A mandatory evacuation order was expected as early as Saturday night. Hotels closed, and the New Orleans airport prepared to follow suit. Mayor Ray Nagin, saying the danger to the city was growing, told tourists to leave. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff planned to travel to Louisiana on Sunday to observe preparations.

    As part of the evacuation plan New Orleans developed after Hurricane Katrina, residents who had no other way to get out of the city waited on a line that snaked for more than a mile through the parking lot of the city's Union Passenger Terminal. From there, they were to board motor coaches bound for shelters in north Louisiana.

    "I don't like it," said Joseph Jones Jr., 61, who draped a towel over his head to block the blazing sun. "Going someplace you don't know, people you don't know. And then when you come back, is your house going to be OK?"

    Jones had been in line for 2 1/2 hours, but he wasn't complaining. During Katrina, he'd been stranded on a highway overpass.

    Others led children or pushed strollers with one hand and pulled luggage with the other. Volunteers handed out bottled water, and medics were nearby in case people became sick from the heat.

    Unlike Katrina, when thousands took refuge inside the Superdome, there will be no "last resort" shelter, and those who stay behind accept "all responsibility for themselves and their loved ones," said the city's emergency preparedness director, Jerry Sneed.

    Yet the presence of 2,000 National Guard troops that were expected to join 1,400 New Orleans police officers patrolling the streets following the evacuation — along with Gov. Bobby Jindal's request to neighboring states for rescue teams — suggested officials were expecting stragglers.

    Standing outside his restaurant in the city's Faubourg Marigny district, Dale DeBruyne prepared for Gustav the way he did for Katrina — stubbornly.

    "I'm not leaving," he said.

    DeBruyne, 52, said his house was stocked with storm supplies, including generators.

    "I stayed for Katrina," he said, "and I'll stay again."

    Others were taking no chances.

    Lee Isaacson, 52, a computer consultant, was boarding up windows in his home, which flooded during Katrina. He planned to take his family to North Carolina.

    "We're doing this more for looters than the storm," Isaacson said, recalling the chaos that followed Katrina. "I don't think the hurricane will break them, but I don't want someone breaking in."

    Many residents said the evacuation was more orderly than Katrina, although a plan to electronically log and track evacuees with a bar code system failed and was aborted to keep the buses moving. Officials said information on evacuees would be taken when they reached their destinations.

    Advocates criticized the decision not to establish a shelter, warning that day laborers and the poorest residents will fall through the cracks.

    About two dozen Hispanic men gathered under oak trees near Claiborne Avenue, where on better days they would be waiting for work rebuilding from Katrina. They were wary of boarding any bus, even though a city spokesman said no identity papers would be required.

    "The problem is," said Pictor Soto, 44, of Peru, "there will be immigration people there and we're all undocumented."


    Father west, where Gustav appeared more likely to make landfall, Guard troops were also being sent to Lake Charles. But the state's ports and oil refineries were still operating and had no plans to shut down.

    The National Hurricane Center issued a hurricane watch for Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and part of Texas. A hurricane watch means hurricane conditions are possible within the watch area, generally within 36 hours.

    Authorities in Mississippi, also battered by Katrina, had already begun evacuating the mentally ill and aged from facilities along the coast, and East Texas counties were making arrangements to do the same.

    National Guard soldiers on Mississippi's coast were going door-to-door to alert thousands of families in FEMA trailers and cottages that they should be prepared to evacuate Sunday.

    In Alabama, shelters were opened and 3,000 National Guard personnel assembled to help evacuees from Mississippi and Louisiana.

    "If we don't get the wind and rain, we stand ready to help them," Gov. Bob Riley said.

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    Associated Press writers Peter Prengaman, Janet McConnaughey, Alan Sayre, Allen G. Breed, Mary Foster and Stacey Plaisance contributed to this report from New Orleans. Doug Simpson in Baton Rouge, La., and Michael Kunzelman in Gulfport, Miss., also contributed.

    (This version CORRECTS wind speed for Category 5 to 156 mph or greater sted of 160 mph)
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    If they are so worried about showing ID then they should leave. We would never get away with this in Mexico or many other countries. It never ceases to amaze me how they thinke they have all these rights Americans have and are the first ones to say I know my rights. That is why I seldom watch the news here.
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    Stand under an oak tree with a Cat 5 hurricane headed your way.

    Where are all the illegal alien huggers when you need them? Shouldn't they be out there picking them up and taking them to the special shelter where everyone assisting them will speak to them in their native language?

    Where are the immigration attorneys, advocates, employers, special interest and non-profit groups...? They can bus them all over the place to rallies and protests but they can't bus them out of a hurricane zone? They should be offering up a seat in their family car to those poor illegal aliens, which they have been representing, inviting and encouraging to stay by lobbying the government, while they are cashing checks that came from illegal labor, their customers or tax payer funds despite lobbying government... Where are you? Ye who makes the money off of all the illegals living in the US? Where are you when the illegals need your help?

    I'll tell you where they are. From a safe distance, they are just bitching about the government and taxpayer resources because it just doesn't serve their purpose, to help evacuate the illegals but making them victims will. They are already writing their holier than tho speeches about the dead and helpless illegals who didn't seek assistance during a crisis because someone was going to ask them for papers... Waaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! They have already had a trial run on this in Texas a few weeks ago, when the hurricane hit the Brownsville Area.

    Just goes to show you what they are really all about. Actions speak louder than words. Hypocrites.

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