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    NumbersUSA: New study claims amnesty will not impact economy

    New Study Finds that Amnesty Won't Hurt or Help Economy; But Impact on Population not Considered

    Thursday, April 8, 2010, 9:39 AM EDT - posted on NumbersUSA


    A new study conducted by the Public Policy Institute of California finds that immigration reform won't hurt or help the economy. The study finds that offering an amnesty to the nation's 11-18 million illegal aliens won't improve their individual financial situations.

    Amnesty supporters claim that illegal aliens are paid below average wages, but by offering them a path to citizenship, their wages will increase. The study by the non-partisan institute, however, says that's not the case.

    "We're finding there's not this really large gain in wages among those who are becoming green-card holders," said lead researcher Laura Hill.

    The study further found that illegal aliens who have overstayed their visas are more likely to benefit financially than those who enter the country illegally. The Center of Immigration Studies estimates that 40% of illegal aliens have overstayed their visa.

    "When they get the green card, they catch up," Hill said. "What we think is driving this difference is the way employer sanctions might differ for employers at low skill levels than employers at high skill levels."

    The study also concludes that offering an amnesty will not hurt the economy by negatively impacting underemployed and vulnerable Americans. But the study did not consider the impact of increasing the population and the fact that an amnesty would allow 11-18 illegal aliens to sponsor their extended family members for citizenship.

    "NumbersUSA has never argued that amnesty is bad because it would hurt the economy," Roy Beck responded. "What we argue is that an amnesty would give some 7 million illegal aliens locks on jobs that 7 million less-educated unemployed Americans would love to have in construction, service, manufacturing and transportation.

    "In addition, an amnesty would eventually cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of extra dollars in services and welfare to which low-wage and unemployed illegal aliens are not currently entitled.

    "And the millions of amnestied illegal aliens would soon be able to apply for tens of millions of their (mostly poor) relatives to come join them, adding even more burdens on the infrastructure and other beleaguered taxpayer-supported elements of our society."

    You can view the study in its entirety at the Public Policy Institute of California's website. http://www.ppic.org/main/publication.asp?i=869

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    "When they get the green card, they catch up," Hill said. "What we think is driving this difference is the way employer sanctions might differ for employers at low skill levels than employers at high skill levels."
    Well, if you had been listening to us, you would know what we already know. If you legalize them, they change jobs. They leave the fields and lawnmowers to go after your job. Most don't want to legalize, if they are getting paid in cash, they don't pay taxes through a legitimate job.

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    Garbage Study

    Completely garbage and skewed to serve their agenda. No way would amnesty not cost us mountains of money, political influence as Americans, and even our entire country....

    NO AMNESTY AND LOCK IMMIGRATION UNTIL IT IS FIXED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie
    "When they get the green card, they catch up," Hill said. "What we think is driving this difference is the way employer sanctions might differ for employers at low skill levels than employers at high skill levels."
    Well, if you had been listening to us, you would know what we already know. If you legalize them, they change jobs. They leave the fields and lawnmowers to go after your job. Most don't want to legalize, if they are getting paid in cash, they don't pay taxes through a legitimate job.

    Dixie

    WHY, is this that so hard to figure out, in state with possibly more institutions of higher learning than any COUNTRY in the world?


    And, if this in fact the case, that "we" are having such a problem with basic 3rd grade math, why are we continuing to poor billions into "higher education?"

    Those students, DEMONSTRATING IN THE STREET, because illegals could no longer afford tuition because of budget cuts, when the budget cuts were required because of the illegals draining education funding in the first place, can't perform basic math??

    Perhaps instead of increasing education funding, we could instead require "those" students to repeat 3rd grade math.

    i know, I know, I just went out on a "mathematical limb."

    maybe, we could have a college entry course on adding 2+2 doesn't equal 5; despite what that handsome liberal (Marxist) fine arts professor taught you.

    Sorry Georgia, I sensed some anger seeping through.

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    "When they get the green card,
    And just who is giving illegal aliens green cards? Admission.....they are making them legal as we speak! So they are getting amnesty anyway!

    I call it aiding and abetting which is illegal under federal law..." Immigration Nationality Act 1986 and 1996"!
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