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    Candid Emails Reveal Depths of 1804 Repeal Conspiracy; Regar

    This is news, Turncotes and Spirit bank in cahoots, I knew propaganda was being published when I first read the article about how much 1804 was costing Oklahoma.

    You have to scroll down on the link for the complete article.


    Candid Emails Reveal Depths of 1804 Repeal Conspiracy; Regarding Dirty Harry’s Notes
    http://www.okpns.com/

    "One client is adamant that they want the guest worker -visiting worker -program as an option to raise immediate revenue."

    "We need to put our stuff in a bill with a friendly bill author."

    "If you need me to write any materials for you to use on this issue, please let me know."

    -Lobbyist Vickie Rankin

    Click here to read entire emails.



    "We can 'play nice' for a short while but we will soon have to decide if we wish to continue this tactic or just 'go-for-broke' and turn the Senate upside down. If Coffee does not change his attitude about this, that's exactly what will have to be done. I don't know what else we can use for leverage if all else fails. He is going to look really silly if he continues to fight with Tom."

    "I think we have to just bring everyone in and say "folks, this is what's coming down the tracks and it won't be possible for you to just sit on the fence any longer."

    -Sen "Dirty Harry" Coates

    "Well, this is a lot of fun, sort of." - Lobbyist Otie Ann Fried

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    AN ANALYSIS

    More insight for OKPNS readers today into the minds of the of the anti-1804 cabal, also known as "the gang who couldn’t shred straight."

    Out latest offering from the tip line provides more insight into the precise strategy of the anti-1804 campaign, and demonstrates just how deceptive the effort has been. Taken as a whole, it is clear to see that the so-called 1804 education effort, advanced by the pompous and self-important Chesapeake employee Tom Price, was nothing more than a bluff aimed at HB 1804 author Randy Terrill. Instead, the documents show that delaying implementation of some aspects of HB 1804 is where the anti-1804 campaign had placed all their eggs, as demonstrated by our revelations about the March 30th Flashpoint program.

    More examination reveals some of the leading players in the inept and deceptive repeal campaign, and hand-written notes level some petty and nasty comments about other players in the failing effort. Lobbyist Jamie Longacre, who represents Spirit Bank CEO Kell Kelly, a very public 1804 foe, is seen to emerge as a major architect of the delay tactics.

    Further, the documents reveal the recent Oklahoma Banker’s Association study, presented as an independent gauge of the alleged harm to the Oklahoma economy, was rather a public relations stunt staged in coordination with the anti-1804 campaign.

    The notations in the margins provide much comic relief. For instance, the state chamber of commerce is ripped by the writer, who types “if they had done their job last year we wouldn’t be in this fight. Enough saidâ€

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    This is all the pro illegal rag Tulsa World published and it wasn't head line news


    Senate office theft investigated

    CRIES FOUL
    Sen. Harry Coates: He does not think that any lawmakers were behind the thefts.





    By BARBARA HOBEROCK World Capitol Bureau
    4/11/2008


    A Seminole lawmaker suspects that the theft of e-mails is linked to his opposition to HB 1804.


    OKLAHOMA CITY -- The state Senate is conducting an internal investigation into the theft of documents from the legislative office of a vocal opponent of a controversial anti-illegal-immigration law.

    Sen. Harry Coates, R-Seminole, said printed copies of e-mails were taken from his office and posted on an Internet blog.

    Coates is a vocal critic of House Bill 1804, an immigration reform law that passed last session. Efforts by opponents to make changes to the measure have not been successful.

    Among other things, HB 1804 makes it a felony to knowingly transport illegal immigrants, creates state barriers to hiring illegal workers and requires proof of citizenship to receive certain government benefits. After July 1, it will require state contractors to check the immigra tion status of workers.

    Coates believes that those who support the bill are behind the stolen documents -- which contained conversations about HB 1804 -- and phone calls made to his office and house. He also said someone posed as him to post comments on a Web site that published a story about HB 1804.

    Coates called the theft and other actions an attempt to embarrass and intimidate anyone who does not agree with the immigration law.

    He said the phone calls contained offensive language but did not threaten bodily harm. The threats were political in nature, he said.

    "The Senate is currently conducting an internal investigation in an attempt to discover who is behind this," Coates said. "Once we learn their identity, that information will be turned over to law enforcement, and we would expect it to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

    The internal probe involves reviewing camera images of the hallway outside his office.

    Senate Co-President Pro Tem Glenn Coffee, R-Oklahoma City, said security breaches will be addressed aggressively.

    "We are trying to find out the facts internally," Coffee said. "At some point, we probably would bring in the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation, once we find out what has gone on."

    Coates said he does not believe that any lawmakers are behind the theft of the file with the e-mails.

    He said the publication of the private e-mails on a blog could stifle debate on issues.

    "Some of the material has been taken out of context with the rather obvious purpose of embarrassing anyone who dares to defy those who relish the thought of ridding our state of people who speak another language, legal or illegal," Coates said.

    Rep. Randy Terrill, R-Moore, the author of House Bill 1804, called the incidents "bizarre." He said he doesn't believe that supporters of his legislation are behind the missing documents.

    "The pressure of being on the wrong side of an 80-20 issue has apparently gotten to Sen. Coates," Terrill said. "The paranoia is starting to show a little bit."

    Coates has taken a public position against a popular law, he said.

    "Now, he is feigning shock and surprise that he is hearing from people other than friends, family and employees who disagree with him," Terrill said.

    http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article. ... 4&allcom=1

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    Law enforcement? Each email written by the legislator and other parties on state property is a matter of public record and covered by those laws.

    Now, it would be improper from someone to go in and take them if they forced entry into the office or forced their way into the network.

    But then again, those e-mails are supposed to be public record here in NC.

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    "Some of the material has been taken out of context with the rather obvious purpose of embarrassing anyone who dares to defy those who relish the thought of ridding our state of people who speak another language, legal or illegal," Coates said.
    LOL, that's what supporters of illegal aliens want everyone to think. It's getting pretty old. Don't care what language anyone speaks, if they are here illegally, get 'em out!

    What language does illegal alien speak? Any language! The key word is ILLEGAL, not language.
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    I'd even contend that the language issue isn't just a trivial esoteric one.

    Y'all remember the case down in SC about 1-1.5 yrs ago, when a "non-English speaking person' working at a bar was responsible for mixing drinks, but because they could not read/write fluently in English, they had mistaken added poison to a drink instead of ordinary sugar?

    Even language 'problems' can result in serious injury or death.
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