Thread: Deportees get sympathy, unless they're Mexican

Remember the big uproar last year over the Miami Gomez brothers ? True they are not from Mexico but they are hispanic and were allowed to remain in the USA even though there was an order for deportation.

In fact it was my own Senator Nelson who stopped their deportation in hopes the Dream Act would pass but it did not.So where are the Gomez brothers today ? Going to college in Miami ?

I think when US citizens found out college is cheap and/or free in Mexico it put a damper on them feeling sorry for Mexican IA children too..

Why the double standard? I believe it's because, while Arthur may not have a leg to stand on legally, he at least has the benefit of not being Mexican. Much of the immigration debate is fueled by a fear of a changing culture, competing languages, an altered landscape, and what loopy Minuteman Project founder Jim Gilchrist calls the "colonization" of the United States by Mexican immigrants.

Ohh please, the double standard is alive and well, but the opposite of what Navarette is spinning. The immigration debate is fueled by poor, unskilled, uneducated people crossing the border and taking what they have not earned and don't want to pay for! Welfare, education, medical, jobs, housing, etc, etc, etc. Get over the "fear of changing culture", it's not like hispanics have never settled in the US, it's that this new group of illegal aliens REFUSE to assimilate into OUR way of doing things (When in Rome, Rueben, when in Rome. Remember that?) Drinking and driving, for example, is NOT acceptable in the US. I don't give a DAMN that it may be acceptable in mexico or other countries! You are in America now, get with the program!

La raza, lulac, maldef, border angels, sanctuary movement, lozano's group, and many many more all have ONE thing and one thing only in common....they advocate for hispanics ONLY (mostly mexican). Navarette has balls targeting ONE armenian kid. What's the matter Reuben, you have no problem deporting this kid especially because he is NOT mexican?

Has Reuben ever said that any illegal alien mexican should be deported? Can someone please show me that article, because I just don't see it.

Requesting asylum IS different than sneaking in and demanding everything your way. Permission was denied, so out he goes.

Many people are going to bat for Arthur — from Armenian advocacy groups to Republican Rep. George Radanovich, who represents part of the Central Valley and has many Armenian constituents. The family has also approached Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein hoping she'll introduce a rare measure to grant legal status to a specific individual. There's also plenty of support for the young man on the Internet and on talk radio.

Not that it is likely to do any good. Arthur and his parents will probably be deported. As they should be.

Like Feinstein (and other liberal OBLers) haven't introduced bills proposing legal status for Elvira, Flor and other mexican illegals? PLEASE! How about "but this will break their family apart?" Doesn't apply to this family because they're not Mexican, huh Rueben?

Navarette's bias for a separate set of rules for mexican illegals is obvious in this article. When will the open borders groups get that "illegal aliens will be deported, AS THEY SHOULD BE". Navarette got it, but only if you're not mexican.

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I do feel bad for this boy, but he received a great free education and you will find at least 20 million others with some kind of a sad story Ruben.

And believe me their are alot of American children who don't get in-state tution and do not have the money to go to college, where is your sympthy for them, or is it only hispanic illegals you are concerned with?




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It is not a matter of lack of compassion for him as a human being or his situation, but as someone has already commented "the law is the law". How many countries would approve of immigrants entering the country without the proper paperwork to begin with? Probably not many. It would be surprising if any other country would not immediately deport them, and thus no education at all! The fact that he was able to attend school and earn good grades is really beside the point. How did he survive I wonder? public assistance? We can not make exceptions to the law based on who has the best story or who is projected to be the best citizen. I further wonder if he displaced a deserving LEGAL student by taking up a spot during the time he received all this free education in an illegal status. Or if he contributed to the overcrowding of the school he attended. It would seem that now he would be be able to return to his country of origin with a good (yet undeserved) education. He could become a bilingual teacher in his home country or obtain a job using his newly acquired education paid for by U.S. taxpayers. Even though it is disappointing to him and is not the outcome he expected, I just bet that such a promising person would now be an asset to that country and his job opportunities would be greatly expanded. If he really and truly wants this, then he must return, work there, get his paperwork in order and try again the correct way. In time, he could return as a bilingual teacher! I see positive outcomes to this if he follows the laws of both countries. However, he must understand that it is nothing against him personally and that the law applies to ALL, regardless of race, skills, education or talents. I wish him luck and I hope others will learn from this BEFORE they come.

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The problem is sheer numbers. The majority of illegals in this country are from Mexico. Facts are facts Ruben. Perhaps the "double standard" has arisen as a result of hispanics like you who attempt to exploit those numbers in order to gain political and prefered status as a result of a substantial illegal population.

It's one thing to be illegal, it's quite another to attempt to exploit that illegal status to your advantage...

Get over the "fear of changing culture", it's not like hispanics have never settled in the US,

It's not like they haven't been here since the beginning. It's not like they haven't been a part of this culture since the beginning. It's not like they haven't impacted many aspects of our culture already. For the life of me I don't get what it's all about except for simply wanting one specific group of people to be legal while others aren't and being part of a culture isn't enough, they want to take it over. Because I seriously can't see what all the whining is about.

It's one thing to be illegal, it's quite another to attempt to exploit that illegal status to your advantage...

Exactly.

As usual, Navarette brings up some seemingly fair and reasonable points but fails to tell the full story. I guess he thinks no one would bother to do any research into the Apodaca case.





I said the same thing six years ago when a similar story surfaced. In August 2002, The Denver Post ran a front-page story about Jesus Apodaca, a recent high school graduate with a 3.93 grade-point average who wanted to go to the University of Colorado but couldn't afford the tuition — because he was an illegal immigrant. In Colorado, the undocumented have to pay out-of-state tuition rates, which are higher than those for residents. A member of Congress involved himself in that case as well, albeit in a different capacity. Anti-illegal immigration crusader Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., called what was then the Immigration and Naturalization Service and asked it what it was planning to do about Apodaca. The young man and his family were apprehended and, last we heard, were slated for deportation.


Turns out that the family was brought to the attention of the Denver Post by the Mexican Consulate, at the direction of the Mexican government, working in collusion with La Raza and other "Latino civil rights organizations".

The idea was to try and wrangle a reduced tuition, or even free, college education for the boy, and also transform the family into an image "representative" of IAs. In a nutshell, they were a PR stunt designed to portray....specifically....Mexican IAs as being an intellectual, familial, and economic superclass, previous generations of which had not achieved full potential due to abject poverty. This, of course, could not be permitted to happen to the millions of present day and future Superclass Progeny without whom the US would not survive.

One writer, a Latino himself, stated that this crap read straight from the reconquista handbook and did not sound dissimilar to the rantings of Hitler.



Here's the part that bothers me: I wonder why more of them — including Tancredo — aren't making a fuss over Arthur Mkoyan. The fact is, Jesus didn't get nearly the amount of public sympathy that Arthur has received up to now.

This is an outright lie. The Post ran more than 30 articles and editorials fully supporting the Apodaca family, "numerous, influential civil rights organizations" came to their defense, there was a private bill introduced by Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell with the support of Gov. Bill Owens, Rep. Schaffer, and Ted Kennedy. Kennedy also met with Bush after which he implied that GW was in full support of the family and also called the Director of the INS who complied with his request that they delay detaining the family and the subsequent deportation proceedings. The story was also subject to almost daily radio, television, and other media reports for months on end.

It appears that Apodaca actually had more publicity and support than this other kid is currently getting.



And here's the kicker: The Apodaca family, once "It" hit the fan, was packed up bag and baggage and moved to the Mexican Consulate, the accusation being made that the lives of this wonderful family had been thoroughly disrupted and ruined by the US government and media!!

That would be the same US government and media that Mexico had tried to manipulate to get this kid his higher education on our backs, get the family amnesty, and promote for their own agenda.

After that, the Apodacas apparently just "disappeared" and were neither apprehended nor deported to the best of anyone's knowledge.