Thread: Despite families' pleas, O'Reilly slams VB

Originally Posted by adam-k

Originally Posted by Cliffdid

Adam K
Can you solve world hunger next?

Welcome Adam....
we are busy trying to solve our own country's problems...
like....
15-20m illegal aliens in this country
theft of I.D., killing Americans,violence on our borders and over our borders,rapes,gangs and gang violence, theft of services in hospitals, welfare, schools, and every other benefit that belongs to Americans....
Senior citizens here have trouble getting benefits, decent health care and food.
Why don't you ask Mexico's government ...if they can solve the problem of hunger, joblessness and violence in their country and stop sending thugs, drugs and their nationals here for education, jobs and benefits...that would be more appropriate QUESTION
If we didn't need to use all our energies fighting a fight the government should have under control like borders, the threat of terriorist. enforcing laws as written and taking care of it's own citizens...we might have time to worry about hunger elsewhere....

Va. Beach police chief weighs policy on immigration checks

09:51 AM EDT on Monday, April 23, 2007

Associated Press

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) -- The Virginia Beach police chief has been meeting with citizen groups to decide whether to change a city policy that forbids police officers from asking the immigration status of people arrested on misdemeanor charges.

The reassessment is in response to media attention and public outrage following the deaths of two teenage girls in a car crash in March. An illegal immigrant is accused of causing the wreck.

Chief Jake Jacocks says there is isolated sentiment in the community to allow police to ask about the immigration status of those charged with misdemeanor crimes.

But he says he's leaning toward not changing the policy. It was developed to encourage people who may be in the country illegally to report crimes to police and to cooperate with police in solving crimes.

Jacocks crafted the policy himself.



(Copyright 2007 by The Associated
http://www.wvec.com/news/local/stories/ ... c6c2.html#

In response to adam-k:

1. What are YOU doing to solve world hunger?

2. In New Hampshire one DUI is enough period, end of driving - so if you drive again drunk and kill somone's children, then it's criminal - if your an American citizen. If you enter the U.S. illegally, decide to live in one of many sanctuary cities, drive while intoxicated, get a DUI, drive intoxicated again, then kill someone's children, it's only one DUI.

3. If you believe that what a columnist says/doesn't say is fact, as if being an investigative journalist, then I do have some property to sell you.

4. Any public servant hired by: We The People and pledging honesty and integrity on our behalf, then decides to create a place of refuge for criminals who are above the LAW is responsible for what happens to U.S., they signed off on it and they own it. They are not getting away with it either and I hope O'Reilly never stops dogging that issue.

City policy on immigration status needs another look

More columns
Kerry's blog
The Virginian-Pilot
© April 24, 2007



And we thought they were afraid of being caught.

Illegal immigrants, that is.

Until a few weeks ago, many of us believed that those illegally in the United States were tiptoeing in society's shadows, fearful of drawing attention to themselves, lest they be deported.

We figured they were nervously glancing over their shoulders, terrified of informants, immigration officials and, most of all, the police.

How naive.

After the senseless deaths of two Beach teenagers in March, allegedly caused by a drunken driver who admits he's here illegally, we learned that Virginia Beach has a longstanding "don't-ask-don't-tell" policy toward illegals who have not committed a felony.

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Who knew?

Actually, the illegal immigrant community knew. Law-abiding citizens did not.

And illegal immigrants seem to enjoy the same breaks and second chances as citizens.

Alfredo Ramos, the man accused of killing Alison Kunhardt and Tessa Tranchant the night of March 30, knew first hand that breaking minor laws would not end with a trip back to Mexico. According to news reports, he had "three prior alcohol-related convictions but had never been considered for deportation."

Shoot, a first-time DUI in Chesapeake resulted in a suspended jail sentence.

While other cities seem merely unconcerned with immigration status, it's the Beach that has an official we-don't-care policy toward violators.

Two years ago, Police Chief Jake Jacocks Jr. decreed that Beach police officers couldn't ask suspects about their immigration status unless they were charged with a serious crime or involved in gang activity or terrorism.

So suspects accused of minor infractions - even those who spoke little English, such as Ramos - couldn't be asked how they got here. Cops ought to be free to ask any non-English-speaking offenders whether they're legal.

There's also a worry that illegal immigrants will be reluctant to go to the cops if they have to reveal their status. That's legitimate. But it's the risk they took when they crossed the border illegally.

The bigger issue seems to be disgust with Washington.

If the feds don't care, why should cities?

Fact is, Americans care.

And anger over the Beach policy appears to be giving the chief heartburn.

Pilot reporter Jon Frank reported Sunday that Jacocks acknowledged "isolated" disagreement with his don't-ask-don't-tell policy.

Isolated?

Not the adjective I'd use.

Jacocks is reconsidering his rule. The chief talked last week with community groups and Hispanics. On Monday, he met with representatives of the federal immigration agency.

Yet his policy remains in place.

We know the feds do little about illegal immigration. We also know local police departments have neither the money nor the authority to detain and deport offenders.

No one's asking Jacocks' officers to do that.

It costs nothing to ask a suspect about immigration status when he or she is ticketed or arrested. And it wouldn't cost much to notify the feds when an illegal is found.

That wouldn't end the influx of illegal immigrants, but it's a start.


Reach Kerry at (757) 446-2306 or kerry.dougherty@cox.net.

Hey Adam...I like you better when you... Go Away!

Originally Posted by Americanpatriot

Hey Adam...I like you better when you... Go Away!

I think he is busy writing parking tickets

He probably works for Ted Kennedy or the ACLU.

I asked what he was doing about world hunger, he never got back to me.

I think he is is on the public payroll a cop? Or maybe a hotel manager/