The bottle-neck and logger-jam will only get worse, because we still have a wide open border----plug the leak, then start dipping water!Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
The bottle-neck and logger-jam will only get worse, because we still have a wide open border----plug the leak, then start dipping water!Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Sure have at it. We've been trying to do that for 15 years here at ALIPAC, others have been trying to do that since 1986, which is 32 years, so Good luck!!
At some point, wise people wake up and say, we need a different plan, something we can actually do that's quick, cheap and effective like Judy's Plan B.
Judy's Plan B:
Tell all these countries, if your citizens don't stop entering our country illegally, then you will have no aid from or trade with the United States. Period.
This is what they wanted.
Plant their illegal alien children in the U.S. and later bring the parents in.
CHAIN MIGRATION
THEY WHINED AND CRIED ABOUT BEING "SEPARATED"!
DEPORT THEM TOGETHER!
NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND! THEY ARE NOT U.S. CITIZENS, NOT OUR CHILDREN AND NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY
OUR GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO STOP KIDNAPPING THESE CHILDREN, PUTTING THEM IN FOSTER CARE OR RELEASING THEM ON OUR SOIL!
SEND THEM BACK WITH THE PARENTS OR HAND THEM OVER INTO THE CARE AND CUSTODY OF AUTHORITIES ON THEIR SOIL!
The DOJ is not authorized to give illegal immigrant amnesty. Only the President of the United States has final authority to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
It's delusional to think the system would be any different if DHS was responsible for deportation in the sense you're advocating for. DHS is responsible for the actual retention and physical deportations of all illegal aliens.
If the responsibilities of DOJ were switched to DHS they would still be required to act in accordance with our immigration laws and U.S. Constitution. There would still be immigration courts and immigration judges whether you cut DOJ completely out or not. Your argument on whether DHS or DOJ should be responsible for immigration courts and judges is meaningless because both would have to observe the same laws. Personally, I'd much rather have Jeff Sessions in charge of this over Secretary Kirstjen Nielson (sp?).
The only real way to enact the change in law you want is for our legislative branch to rewrite our immigration laws. Switching DOJ responsibilities to DHS would do absolutely nothing to change law.
I understand where you're going. You just want DHS to catch 'em and deport 'em ... don't we all, but unfortunately our immigration laws are much more complex than that. If you want to assign blame for the sorry state of affairs we're in, I'd start with the special interest group lawyers, immigration lawyers, leftist district court judge, U.S. Congress, and our President.
No similarity at all. Furthermore, the DHS does actually release illegals and asylum claimants. The DOJ does not detain illegals or asylum claimants. It is the responsibility of DHS to deport them or refer them to the DOJ (immigration courts). The DOJ only issues orders of release for those winning their claim or case in immigration court. The DHS would have to do the same thing if they controlled the courts.Quote:
Having the US DOJ in charge of release and deportation orders is like having the ACLU in charge of Border Patrol and ICE.
It is the responsibility of DHS to decide on catch & release (releasing for future court date) or detention. The DOJ doesn't deal with that aspect.
Related article and info
Form shows options for parents facing deportation
"The document itself makes clear that the binary choice is only supposed to be for parents who have already been ordered deported from the country. "
None of that is true. DOJ AMNESTY is a release order pending your hearing on a deportation order that doesn't come for years that you don't show up for when or if they finally give you proper legal notice for one, and only if you don't appeal. DHS can do the deportation orders immediately, handle the appeal immediately thereafter, deny the appeal and get them the hell out of here.Quote:
Originally Posted by MW
All of it is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
In a nutshell, DOJ does not have the authority to grant amnesty. DHS detains or releases illegal aliens. DOJ does not detain or release illegal. DHS either deports illegals or refers them to an immigration judge (DOJ).
This isn't hard to understand. I'm sorry it doesn't fit the narrative you're attempting to push and that is that DOJ is responsible for everything.
DOJ is solely responsible for everything related to their failure to issue Deportation Orders to illegal aliens in our country in violation of US immigration law. And DOJ Amnesty is allowing you to remain our country with work permits for years awaiting a deportation process that never occurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MW
Worse than that, we already have a problem with Anchor Babies who often return to their parents country until they are of age, then move to the United States when they are of age, bringing their parents who initially broke our laws by violating our borders. These "babies" are allowed to remain here, presumably to be granted amnesty, then citizenship which, again, will allow them to bring the parents who violated our immigration system to legally move here! https://www.alipac.us/images/icons/icon13.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Additionally, parents or adults who bring a child over our borders illegally, should be charged with smuggling! If they choose to leave their child here, they should still be prosecuted for the smuggling charge with part of the punishment being they are never allowed to return to this country!