Thread: Dobbs and Palin for President 2012: last gasps of obsolete G

Dobbs and Palin for President 2012: last gasps of obsolete GOP
November 12, 7:23 PM
Progressive Examiner Byron DeLear
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A couple of days ago, I was enjoying a visit with two friends at Starbucks and a well-dressed man in passing, said hello. On his way out he commented offhand about the "nightmarish health care bill" that just passed the US House. He was afraid he'd lose his Medicare, and hated the idea of socialized medicine. Who'd a thunk it?

Never to miss a slice-of-life opportunity, we engaged him in conversation to find out what makes his brand of patriotism tick. The standard tea-bagger fare followed, indeed, our gourmet coffee aficionado had not only made pilgrimage to Washington DC for the Glenn Beck 9/12 event, but had dropped everything last week to attend the anti-health care bill "press conference" on the steps of Capitol Hill.

This rally saw House Republicans standing in front of a crowd holding signs saying, "National Socialist Healthcare, Dachau, Germany, 1945" -- and had actor Jon Voight asking of Obama, "Could it be he has had 20 years of subconscious programming by Reverend Wright to damn America?" This programming, of course, has the President ushering America along toward some red-hued horizon, socialism uber alles.

From our Starbucks comrade we heard how America's health care was the best in the world, we shouldn't fix what isn't broken, why would people from all around the world fly here to see a doctor? I said just because some people fly around in Lear Jets or G5s, doesn't mean it's fair to judge the US transportation system by the actions of those who can afford chartered aircraft. Yes, rich people from around the world come to the US to get top-tier care. But the only equitable approach, if we're trying to measure the overall quality of our system, is to judge the average experience of US patients, and those numbers clearly show that we are not the best in the world, and that Americans are being fleeced at double the cost other Western industrialized nations pay for their health care. Our system is infected with a culture of profiteering that actually translates into a 45,000 a year body count. It's immoral and incumbent upon the citizens of our nation to protect the health of our national family by addressing the callous and inhumane nature of our current health care system.

But I digress. This is about Dobbs and Palin for 2012! Lou Dobbs just quit CNN, and Palin's about to embark upon her "Going Rogue" book tour. Several outlets have reported Dobbs considering a Presidential bid, possibly as an independent, certainly his comments allude to a potential candidacy of some sort,

"Some leaders in media, politics and business have been urging me to go beyond my role here at CNN and to engage in constructive problem-solving, as well as to contribute positively to a better understanding of the great issues of our day, and to continue to do so in the most honest and direct language possible."


There's a few websites attempting to recruit Dobbs like http://loudobbs4president.com/ or http://www.loudobbsforpresident.org/ , many activists related to the Minuteman Project seem to be behind these early efforts at Dobbs 2012, supporting his outspoken positions on illegal immigration.

Maybe Dobbs should team up with Palin for an indie-hit not seen since the likes of Ross "giant suckin' sound" Perot?

If so, this would be a gift to Democrats and indicative of the last gasps of an obsolete Grand Old Party, emphasizing--old. In a two-party system, if an independent with real legs springs up, it invariably will benefit one of the major parties. In the case of an independent tea-bagger candidacy, this would mean skimming five or ten points off the Republican candidate dooming them electorally.

What's an interesting dynamic in all this, are the right wing rabble-rousing cheerleaders like Limbaugh and Beck, et al. They don't have to articulate a message that communicates an inclusive political mindset, in fact, most of their rhetoric sensationalizes -- because its show biz -- stereotypes -- because its show biz -- stokes fear -- because its show biz, you get the point. Their model is entertainment parked in a political vehicle, ministering to a minority of folks verging on xenophobic affliction, deathly afraid their conception of "homeland" has been stolen away; they are losing their country, and are freaked out about it. Problem is, the right wing media putsch does nothing to build the inclusive consensus necessary for broad-based electoral victory.

Newspapers are dropping like flies, people are increasingly gravitating toward free on-line material (like here at examiner.com), and consequently, the sense of national consensus through the reporting of professional journalism is a thing of the past. This further polarizes the views of isolated communities of interest, like the tea-baggers. They are then subjected to the all too entertaining flamboyance of Beck and Limbaugh -- which solidifies their boutique worldviews -- and voila, you have a prescription for GOP crash-and-burn. Remember Beck and Limbaugh need not build broad support, they can laugh all the way to the bank with 5%.

Ironically, some of the negative aspects of excessive consumerism, greed and profiteering is folding back upon itself through shows like Beck's and Limbaugh's, meaning, because they can profit off of their fear-mongering, and some are so enamored and titillated by this type of rhetoric, it becomes a self-defeating process demographically speaking. The repeated pounding by these show biz ideologues reinforces extremist and fringe views, literally creating a political train wreck in slow motion -- there's no "compassionate" in this conservatism, a former Republican mantra that successfully brought in votes. This retro-conservatism, is more a racial-conservatism, if Beck's and Limbaugh's arguments are so strictly ideological, pro-Constitution and so forth, why is the tea-bagger movement overwhelmingly only appealing to largely southern white males?

Republicans have not succeeded at messaging to minorities, African-Americans, Latinos, Asians, non-Christians, constituencies growing as a percentage of voters every day. If the tea-baggers continue to heed the call of talk radio cheerleaders or forward an independent candidacy like that of Palin or Dobbs, we will all witness the last gasps of the old GOP.

GNP: Grand New Party?
What about a new conservative voice? That wouldn't reject the need for environmental "conservation" as another attempt to create one-world government? A new conservative voice rediscovering the indispensable check-and-balance on government largess and inefficiency?

Well, I couldn't sign off this article without mentioning, as a progressive, I share many of the concerns that vanguard conservatives like Ron Paul talk about: fiscal policy, national deficit and debt, foreign policy and excessive militarism, institutionalized corruption and campaign finance reform to name a few.

These are systemic issues -- enthroned facets of the Federal Government, expansionist limbs, so far, immune to political amputation:

• National Security Apparatus or “Military Industrial Complexâ€

Originally Posted by Byron DeLear

There's a few websites attempting to recruit Dobbs like http://loudobbs4president.com/ or http://www.loudobbsforpresident.org/ , many activists related to the Minuteman Project seem to be behind these early efforts at Dobbs 2012, supporting his outspoken positions on illegal immigration.

Maybe Dobbs should team up with Palin for an indie-hit not seen since the likes of Ross "giant suckin' sound" Perot?

If so, this would be a gift to Democrats and indicative of the last gasps of an obsolete Grand Old Party, emphasizing--old. In a two-party system, if an independent with real legs springs up, it invariably will benefit one of the major parties. In the case of an independent tea-bagger candidacy, this would mean skimming five or ten points off the Republican candidate dooming them electorally.

Or, contrary to the opinion advanced by this liberal, "progressive" news reporter, now that the "giant suckin' sound" has turned into a roaring tornado of vanishing jobs and investment, and the wail of disenfranchised American workers...

A run by conservatives and the Christian right will likely resonate with a large percentage of voters among those who do not drink at the DNC Kool-Aid bar. That large percentage of voters will carry the "old white men," left behind in the country club, Chamber of Commerce, CFR/FRB establishment GOP, into a (not globalist) American party based, not upon money and capital, but upon freedom and the U.S. Constitution.