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09-27-2006, 03:02 PM #21
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Mexico should extradict all fugitives to back to the United States. I however would be reluctant to agree that Mexico should extradict those who are facing the death penalty. Instead, if the victims' family or DA's office agrees to seek a maximum of a life sentence, I would agree that any fugitive should be extradicted under any circumstances.
Whether what Dog did was right or wrong in the legal sense, extraditing him and incarcerating him in Mexico would be equivalent to issuing a death sentence. I do not think the death penalty is appropriate punishment even if a crime was committed.
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09-27-2006, 03:09 PM #22Originally Posted by Kate
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09-28-2006, 12:27 AM #23Originally Posted by Airborne1
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09-28-2006, 02:40 PM #24Originally Posted by TommyJefferson
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09-28-2006, 04:18 PM #25
Here's an idea. Don't go to Mexico and try to earn reward money and glory by breaking Mexican laws because the US government will screw you if it suits their fancy.
Here's another idea. If you bond out, don't jump bond.
People who support immigration reform do the cause a disservice when they align themselves with a media star of questionable integrity and common sense who plays loose and fast with the law.
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09-28-2006, 07:03 PM #26Originally Posted by TommyJefferson
How can you want laws followed and enforced against illegal aliens if you do not want the laws followed by and enforced against all?
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09-28-2006, 07:50 PM #27People who support immigration reform do the cause a disservice when they align themselves with a media star of questionable integrity and common sense who plays loose and fast with the law.
We are defending Dog Chapman because this is not really about Dog Chapman. You are lucky and we are lucky that it is a nationally known star personality facing this situation because it allows us to educate you on some of the important things going on in what used to be your country called America.
1. There are thousands of people wanted for murder in Mexico alone, tens of thousands when you add in the rapists, child molesters, drug dealers, etc... That are wanted for active warrants here in the US and Mexico refused to extradite them to us. Mexico is guilty of failing on a national level with Reciprocity with the US.
2. Dog Chapman was placed in front of a judge where your tax dollars walked in to argue that Mr. Chapman and his sons no longer had any Constitutional rights because they were now in an International arena.
It is my understanding they broke bail on a misdemeanor charge in Mexico for their apprehension of the serial rapist.
So imagine that one morning you wake up and the Mexican government has decided that you, a US Citizen, has broken one of their laws and they want you brought to Mexico to face this charge. You wake up with guns in your face and a few hours later you are in a cell with the authorities explaining to you that every right you felt you had as an American under the US Constitution and Bill of Rights is now gone.
3. The US Government is exhibiting a pattern of acting in the best interest of wealthy drug and human smuggling cartels and corporations instead of the people that pay for the fancy offices and cars in DC. The prosecution of our border patrol agents for shooting a drug smuggling illegal alien in the buttocks is just another example.
Yes, Dog Chapman is a star and not everyone likes him or his show. Yes, Dog Chapman broke the misdemeanor laws of Mexico and fled the country.
This is not about Dog Chapman. This is about his millions of fans having the opportunity now to wake up to the fact that things are not as one would expect in the United States of America anymore and your rights to have your existing laws enforced, your families protected, JUSTICE for our victims, and many more important quality of life issue are about out the window if not gone already.
Anyone in this conversation that places the slightest amount confidence in the Mexican Government, judicial system, jails and prisons, needs to do some research.
Most of the country is under the control of wealthy family and drug/slave lords. People no longer call the police when their children are stolen because the police are in league with the cartels and to call the police would lead to the extermination of the entire family. Policemen are having their heads chopped off and stuck on polls people.
Yes the law is important but when the laws favored by the people go unenforced and the laws favored by the elites and crime cartels are enforced then you have a problem.
Let us hope and pray that our activities supporting Dog Chapman will lead to many more Americans waking up to what is going on here before it is to late.
If this trend continues, it will not really matter what you think about Dog Chapman and his misdemeanor charge in Mexico because right now you are all being treated like peasants.
Dog Chapman is a ragga-muffin in their eyes that had the audacity to touch one of what they call in Mexico "The Untouchables" translations "Wealthy elitist family member"
How many rape victims and their families now have Justice because of Dogs actions here? How many rape victims in Mexico have been spared?
How many hundreds of thousands of American families are grieving today because of the Government's failure to enforce our existing immigration laws and honor our once sacred form of self Governance?
If your sister or daughter had been raped by this fiend and you knew he was on a Mexican beach laughing his ass off with the full support and protection of the corrupt Mexican authorities, what would you do?
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