Thread: Employers Fight Tough Measures on Immigration

Employers Fight Tough Measures on Immigration
By JULIA PRESTON
July 6, 2008



An electronics plant in Southern California. The chief executive worries that an immigration raid could cripple the company.

Under pressure from the toughest crackdown on illegal immigration in two decades, employers across the country are fighting back in state legislatures, the federal courts and city halls.

Business groups have resisted measures that would revoke the licenses of employers of illegal immigrants. They are proposing alternatives that would revise federal rules for verifying the identity documents of new hires and would expand programs to bring legal immigrant laborers.

Though the pushback is coming from both Democrats and Republicans, in many places it is reopening the rift over immigration that troubled the Republican Party last year. Businesses, generally Republican stalwarts, are standing up to others within the party who accuse them of undercutting border enforcement and jeopardizing American jobs by hiring illegal immigrants as cheap labor.

Employers in Arizona were stung by a law passed last year by the Republican-controlled Legislature that revokes the licenses of businesses caught twice with illegal immigrants. They won approval in this year’s session of a narrowing of that law making clear that it did not apply to workers hired before this year.

Last week, an Arizona employers’ group submitted more than 284,000 signatures — far more than needed — for a November ballot initiative that would make the 2007 law even friendlier to employers.

Also in recent months, immigration bills were defeated in Indiana and Kentucky — states where control of the legislatures is split between Democrats and Republicans — due in part to warnings from business groups that the measures could hurt the economy.

In Oklahoma, chambers of commerce went to federal court and last month won an order suspending sections of a 2007 state law that would require employers to use a federal database to check the immigration status of new hires. In California, businesses have turned to elected officials, including the Democratic mayor of Los Angeles, to lobby federal immigration authorities against raiding long-established companies.

While much of the employer activity has been at the grass-roots level, a national federation has been created to bring together the local and state business groups that have sprung up over the last year.

“These employers are now starting to realize that nobody is in a better position than they are to make the case that they do need the workers and they do want to be on the right side of the law,â€

Heads up Arizonans!!

Beware of the Stop Illegal Hiring initiative

Petitions filed for Stop Illegal Hiring initiative
The Stop Illegal Hiring initiative, primarily bankrolled by the business group Wake Up Arizona, ------ But it would remove the requirement for employers to use E-Verify and would not allow anonymous complaints.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepubli ... s0702.html

[quote]Bush administration officials said the crackdown was the price employers must pay to persuade voters to agree to open the gates to immigrant workers. In an interview, Mr. Chertoff, the homeland security secretary, said, “We are not going to be able to satisfy the American people on a legal temporary worker program until they are convinced that we will have a stick as well as a carrot.â€

Under pressure from the toughest crackdown on illegal immigration in two decades

This shows how little enforcement has gone on since the last mass amnesty in 1986 and how bad things have gotten since then. 5000 arrests last year in a workforce where millions of IAs are working is still a joke.

And the ethnocentric/cheap labor interests are much more entrenched than they were 20 years ago, that's why we see so much whining, blowback and litigation from the still minimal enforcement that's going on now. Any further amnesties such as what John McCain is still proposing will only magnify these trends instead of solving them.

DO NOT ALLOW THE FEDS, AND EMPLOYERS, TO LULL YOU INTO APATHY!!

Unfortunate Fact: In workplace raids since October 2007, ICE has (only) arrested 3,750 people on charges in relation to illegal immigrants. Only 2% of those arrested were the employers of illegal immigrants.

------------------------I.C.E. Workplace Arrests-----------------------
-----2003------2004------2005-------2006-------2007------FYTD2008 (FY ends Sept 30)
-----------------------------------------------------4,940 -------3,750

THEY ARE REALLY ONLY DEPORTING FUGITIVES, AND CRIMINALS, AND NOT EVEN VERY MANY OF THEM!!
WE WANT ALL ILLEGALS TO GO!!

-------------------------I.C.E. Deportations --------------------------- (FY ends Sept 30)
-----2003------2004------2005------2006-------2007------FYTD2008
---150,000--175,000--175,000--200,000--- 276,912------

IN THE MEANTIME THEY ARE STILL CONTINUING THEIR INVASION OF OUR COUNTRY!!

Border Patrol Sector Apprehensions on our Southern Border (West to East)
Fiscal Year (Oct thru Sept)---2005--------2006--------2007----FYTD 2008
Total Apprehensions-------1,171,554-1,071,972--- 858,638----508,406 (thru May 31- fiscal year ends Sept.30)

Southwest Border Facts and Figures
http://www.capsweb.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=43

MANDATE THE ENFORCEMENT OF E-VERIFY FOR ALL EMPLOYEES!!!

MANDATE E-VERIFY TO RECEIVE ANY GOVERNMENT BENEFIT!!!

Anyone employing an illegal, automatic $20,000 fine, or $10,000 per employee, whichever is more.

Originally Posted by Populist

Under pressure from the toughest crackdown on illegal immigration in two decades

This shows how little enforcement has gone on since the last mass amnesty in 1986 and how bad things have gotten since then. 5000 arrests last year in a workforce where millions of IAs are working is still a joke.

And the ethnocentric/cheap labor interests are much more entrenched than they were 20 years ago, that's why we see so much whining, blowback and litigation from the still minimal enforcement that's going on now. Any further amnesties such as what John McCain is still proposing will only magnify these trends instead of solving them.

Right on the mark Populist! It's almost as if our government intended for this to happen. We had the mass amnesty of 86 and didn't secure our borders as was promised as part of the agreement. So what happened...Well we basically got a mass exodus from mexico into the United States in anticipation of the next amnesty. What did they expect to happen when they gave away US citizenship for anyone who can make it across the border without securing it! It does not take great leadership ability to foresee that scenario.

Here we are some 20 years later and we are living a nightmare with pressures from the powerful amnesty lobby who have "entrenched" themselves financially, as well as holding elected leadership positions within the House and Senate, where they have been free to promote their ethno-centric, pro-illegal invader agendas. With groups like la raza, lulac, aclu and others, there has been no shortage of resources to further their amnesty agendas.

Also as you so well alluded to, 5000 arrests with millions of illegal invaders in this country is nothing short of window dressing in my opinion! It would indicate there is still not a real desire to go after illegals in this country.

An illegal invader who is working in this country has a better chance of being struck by lightning than he does being caught in an immigration sweep!

And now we're told by Bush, McCain, Obama, Kennedy etc. that "since we can't deport 12 million" that amnesty, "regularization" etc. is a fait accompli. What bunk.

As Mark Krikorian says, we could reduce the number of IAs in the country by about half within 5 years if we consistently enforce existing laws. This is one big reason why the OBL is fighting so furiously against the minimal, belated enforcement that is going on now. They know attrition works.

This great country has sent a man to the moon and spacecraft to every planet’s solar system; mapped the human genome, cured incurable diseases, defeated the most powerful army in the world up to that time in the Revolution; defeated the most powerful armies in the world up to that time in WWI and II; rebuilt the warn torn countries of Japan and Germany, blunted the great Communist Soviet Union empire during the Cold War, established and built the greatest free nation ever on the face of the earth; but yet we hear people say that we can’t put 12 to 20 million people on busses and send them home…Hmmmmmmm.

Hell, Eisenhower deported 1 million illegal aliens in 1 years time with 1/10th the size of today's border patrol agents back in the late-50's. At least twice that number self-deported when they saw the consistent and relentless enforcement action being taken.

Eisenhower was the last President to do anything about illegal immigration and all other one's since have either ignored illegal immigration with indifference or actively facilitated it. I believe this is a direct result of the Bilderberg Group (formed in 1954) , as every U.S. President since "Ike" has belonged to the Bildergerg Group, not that they have all attended the annual meetings personally, but all have sent their representatives. In fact, the only President to ever have uttered a word about this secret, world power elitist group was "Ike" in his farewell address in 1961 when he alluded to the group by being as specific (but yet general) as he could. I'm sure the Bilderberger's were not happy with even his general warning of what Ike termed the 'military-industrial complex'. He wasn't talking just about our military and industries (as the Bilderberg one world new world order concept and goal was already in full swing): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 5118918525

This is scary. The business community has so much money to spend to fight ordianary citizens views and to buy the acquiesence of their congressment. We must be prepared to fight them and prevail on the immigration issue. Businesses must not WIN.