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10-07-2007, 06:23 PM #1
Bush wants to halt Mexican rapist and killer's execution!!
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10-07-2007, 06:49 PM #2AprilGuestDeath Penalty Case Puts Bush and Texas at Odds Over Mexican's Fate
Sunday, October 07, 2007
WASHINGTON — President Bush, who presided over 152 executions as governor of Texas, wants to halt the state's execution of a Mexican national for the brutal killing of two teenage girls.
The case of Jose Ernesto Medellin has become a confusing test of presidential power that the U.S. Supreme Court, which hears the case this week, ultimately will sort out.
The president wants to enforce a decision by the International Court of Justice that found the convictions of Medellin and 50 other Mexican-born prisoners violated their rights to legal help as outlined in the 1963 Vienna Convention.
That is the same court Bush has since said he plans to ignore if it makes similar decisions affecting state criminal laws.
"The president does not agree with the ICJ's interpretation of the Vienna Convention," the administration said in arguments filed with the court. This time, though, the U.S. agreed to abide by the international court's decision because ignoring it would harm American interests abroad, the government said.
Texas argues that neither the international court nor Bush has any say in Medellin's case.
Medellin was born in Mexico, but spent much of his childhood in the United States. He was 18 in June 1993, when he and other members of the Black and Whites gang in Houston encountered two teenage girls on a railroad trestle.
The girls were gang-raped and strangled. Their bodies were found four days later.
Medellin was arrested a few days later. He was told he had a right to remain silent and have a lawyer present, but the police did not tell him that he could request assistance from the Mexican consulate.
Medellin gave a written confession. He was convicted of murder in the course of a sexual assault, a capital offense in Texas. A judge sentenced him to death in October 1994.
Medellin did not raise the lack of assistance from Mexican diplomats during his trial or sentencing. When he did claim his rights had been violated, Texas and federal courts turned him down because he had not objected at his trial. Mexico later sued the United States in the International Court of Justice in The Hague, Netherlands, on behalf of Medellin and 50 other Mexicans on death row in the U.S.
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10-07-2007, 07:44 PM #3
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Bush needs to be tried for TREASON ... Tried by a jury of his peers with due process and sentance carried out in accordance with federal laws in regard to TREASON
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10-07-2007, 08:17 PM #4
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In contrast to his violent pursuit of Ramos and Compean, this has to be the ultimate reveal. We are being governed by cosmopolitan forces beant on inducing rule BY law.
I am not making the argument that a President cannot challenge and disagree with opinions. But, he has presided over more than 150 executions when he was Gov of Texas. Now he has openly decided to smite the victims and the families of the victims for the sake of an illgeal alien?!? One who murdered and raped these folk?!?!
This is the behavior of tyrants. I am not sure about others but I consider this utter madness, purely vindictive behavior. I cannot express how utterly dispicable it is to disgard the crime committed, especially after having spent some much of his time pretending to be tough on criminals and supportive of capitol punishment! My friends, this is proof positive that someone else is running our country and it isn't any of the established branches. I really can't express in words how amazingly destructive this is.
This IS NOT a case about punishment of behavior, but the criminal is simply saying he suffered from supposedly not being able to confer with the Mexican consulate. Bush wants to "decriminalize" the participation and meddling in American affairs by Mexican consulates. He wants to set precident in favor of Mexican government officials, even at the cost of the victims families! This crosses every line and I will wager that the decision made by the Supreme Court will have much more weight than they realize. If they rule in favor of this murderer, Bush will have driven a nail in our coffin that we will not be able to pluck out.
This tyrant and traitor has to be stopped!
I am sure that Texans on this board shudder everytime this Connecticut poser calls Texas his home state.
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10-07-2007, 08:50 PM #5Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7Calderon was absolutely right when he said...."Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico".
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10-07-2007, 09:22 PM #6
Was Jose Ernesto Medellin an illegal alien at the time of this crime?
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10-07-2007, 09:40 PM #7
I have an idea.........give him amnesty and citizenship like the idiot Bush wants to give to many. (MOD EDIT)
<div>Thank you Governor Brewer!</div>
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10-07-2007, 09:50 PM #8
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Originally Posted by ALIPAC
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10-07-2007, 10:54 PM #9
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Here is a copy of the Supreme Court Case:
http://www.debevoise.com/publications/p ... tition.pdf
By the way a Federal Appeals Court ruled that this treaty Bush is citing DOES NOT give individual prisoners cause of action. They found that it is only applicable to sovereign nations.
Court Decision pdf
NC Times Article
Most importantly a Texas court ruled Bush "exceeded his constitutional authority" by mandating that US courts follow a March 2005 International Court of Justice (ICJ) decision giving individuals rights under the Vienna Convention and saying that the US was obligated to grant review and reconsideration of their convictions and sentences to the ICJ.
Case Breif
Jurist Synopsis Article:
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2 ... y-does.php
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10-07-2007, 10:59 PM #10
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Bush "exceeded his constitutional authority"
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