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    Five Questions for Rick Perry on In-State Tuition

    Five Questions for Rick Perry on In-State Tuition

    Center For Immigration Studies
    By Ronald W. Mortensen, October 4, 2011

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry says he supports in-state college tuition for the children of illegal aliens because that is what people who "have a heart" do. However, in reality he is pulling a cynical, heartless trick on these kids and their parents in an effort to garner the support of Hispanic voters while at the same time doing great harm to American men, women and children.

    Rather than focusing on the cost of in-state tuition and the magnet that it provides for additional illegal immigration, Mitt Romney and Michele Bachman along with those in the media need to ask Gov. Perry the following five questions. (Background information follows the questions.)

    1. Why do you entice children who are not guilty of any violation of immigration law until six months after their 18th birthdays to remain illegally in the U.S. by offering them in-state college tuition and then after getting them to stay, why do you oppose the federal DREAM Act which would provide a means for them to legalize their status and to work legally?

    2. How do students illegally in the United States get the money to pay their in-state college tuition and living expenses since neither they nor their parents who are illegally in the United States can legally work in the U.S.?

    3. How do illegal aliens who eventually graduate from Texas universities contribute to the U.S. economy since they cannot legally get jobs?

    4. Aren't you deliberately turning a blind eye to the felonies illegal aliens commit in order to get jobs with reputable employers who require the completion of an I-9 form (Social Security and document fraud, perjury and even identity theft)?

    5. Why don't you "have a heart" for the American citizens who have their lives seriously disrupted when illegal aliens use their Social Security numbers and other identifying information to get jobs?
    Background Information

    1. A child under age 18 who is brought to the United States has not committed a violation of federal immigration law. However, if the child does not leave the United States within six months of his/her 18th birthday, then the child is in violation of U.S. immigration law.

    Unless the federal DREAM Act passes, students who benefit from in-state college tuition have virtually no means of obtaining legal status and, therefore, they cannot legally work in the United States either while attending college or after they graduate.

    Sen. Orrin Hatch told his Senate colleagues, "But the fact of the matter is that cheaper tuition at state schools, no matter how beneficial for these young people, will not solve the larger problem: their illegal immigration status."

    Sen. Dick Durbin added, "Despite long-term residency in the U.S. and a demonstrated commitment to obtaining an education; these students have no avenue for adjusting their immigration status and it is very difficult for them to attend college or to work ... Additionally, they cannot legally work ... The bill [DREAM Act] would also provide an earned adjustment mechanism by which young people who are long-term residents may become lawful permanent residents." Source: Congressional Record, July 31, 2003, pp. 20608-9.

    2. As clearly stated by Senators Hatch and Durbin, illegal alien students cannot legally work in the United States to earn money for their in-state tuition and living expenses unless the federal DREAM Act is passed.

    3. Again, according to Senators Hatch and Durbin, illegal aliens who graduate from Texas institutions of higher learning cannot legally work in the United States unless the federal DREAM Act is passed. Illegal alien students who graduate from Texas universities are unable to use their degrees to get professional or other well-paid jobs with reputable employers unless they commit multiple felonies, including Social Security and document fraud, perjury on I-9 forms, and/or identity theft. According to the Dallas Morning News: "Now some of the students are graduating but unable to work legally as professionals. Julie, 29, who moved from Mexico to Austin at age 12, earned a degree in nursing from the University of Texas. She is unable to work, so instead she volunteers in Dallas."

    4. As explained in the CIS Backgrounder titled, "Illegal, but Not Undocumented: Identity Theft, Document Fraud, and Illegal Employment", illegal aliens commit multiple felonies in order to get jobs with employers who require the completion of I-9 forms as required by federal law. These felonies include Social Security and document fraud, perjury on I-9 forms, and identity theft.

    States with the highest number of illegal aliens, such as Texas, also have the highest rates of identity theft. While Governor Perry ignores this fact, Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Arizona routinely arrests illegal aliens for employment-related identity theft and in the city of St. George, Utah, police aggressively pursue this crime.

    5. Children are prime victims of illegal alien job-related identity theft. Based on an investigation by the Utah Attorney General's office, the Social Security Administration, and Utah Workforce Services, it is estimated that 50,000 Utah children under the age of 13 are the victims of illegal alien-driven identity theft. Over one million Arizona children are estimated to have their identities being used for employment purposes.

    These children suffer real harm, including destroyed credit, arrest records attached to their names, tax liabilities for income earned on their Social Security numbers, difficulty in getting jobs, denied Medicaid and corrupted medical records with life threatening consequences.

    Source: http://www.cis.org/mortensen/five-quest ... te-tuition
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    Perry apologizes for 'heartless' comment on immigration question
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    An apologetic Texas Gov. Rick Perry says his use of the word 'heartless' was inappropriate to describe individuals who refused to provide discounted college tuition to illegal immigrants. In an exclusive Newsmax.TV interview, Perry says he is against building a border fence--except in metropolitan areas—to stop illegal immigration.
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    Let me clarify my vote on this.

    The man is a "Good ol' Boy" in one of the worst connotations of that phrase, he comes from a place of extreme nepotism and greed. I fully believe that he meant to say every word he said. I don't believe, for one moment, that he has any love or sympathy for those individuals that this ruckus is about, but, rather, that he was just trying to use the manipulation of the peasantry that this breed thinks is an acceptable S.O.P.

    Look at his grades in higher education.
    Ask Texans what they think of him. (and note the fear in their voices and eyes at the thought of him as President)
    Look at his track record of obfuscation and out right lies.
    Ask around to find out how many Texans credit him, instead of the state, and her people, as a whole, for the good in Texas... Now ask the reverse.
    Ask around to find out how many Texans were actually upset at a Governor that, instead of getting down to business and rolling up his sleeves to start mitigating the damage of an extraordinary Summer of heat and drought, declared an official day of prayer followed by cutting the state monies to firefighters out trying to save our state and our Texans.

    Perry is worse that G.W.Bush, and very potentially worse that B.H.Obama. More of a hypocrite, more of a nepotized "golden child," that is actually a bastion of nothing more that mediocrity, at best, when weighed on his own, baptized in success by those behind the curtain, more of a liability to everyday citizens, and more of an embarrassment.


    My prayer to the powers that be is to please, whatever wrongs we may have done as a society, please give us more time to correct those wrongs, please do not punish us with this figurehead of wrong being put in the position to do even more damage to this country than the last two incompetents combined. I know that it's been a very long time since we had a good president, but please do not punish us this way... Many of us ARE trying to change things.

    Maybe a day of prayer IS in order... One to pray for a good national government that is less interested in self-preservation than it is interested in the United States of America, her laws, her Constitution, and her Bill of Rights
    I don't care who you are, how you got here, what color you are, what language/dialect you speak... If you didn't get here legally then you don't belong here. Period.

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    In several states, a parent has been jailed and charged with a felony for sending their children to a school outside of their district, in order to get a better education. The charge....."Theft of Education." In Ohio, it was a black lady who used her father's address to enroll her children in a better school. This lady was pursuing a teaching career which the felony stopped until the governer intervened. I'm still in disbelief. Would they charge an illegal alien with eduation theft when they won't charge them for a litany of thefts and being in the country illegally???

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