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    Felon, or merely illegal?

    http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_3309844

    Language of House immigration bill attracting critics from all corners
    By Lisa Friedman, Washington Bureau

    WASHINGTON - Business groups and immigration advocates on Wednesday denounced an immigration bill awaiting a vote in the House even as Republicans battled among themselves over the language.

    The bill would make it a felony to be in the U.S. illegally. While entering the U.S. illegally currently is a felony, living in the country without proper paperwork is a civil offense.

    The measure also would put deportation proceedings on a fast track, make belonging to a gang a deportable offense for legal immigrants, and allow local law enforcement to use federal homeland security grants to track down and arrest illegal immigrants.

    In addition, it would mandate the creation of a $360 million system through which the nation's 8.4 million employers would be expected to check the immigration status of every worker.

    But Randel Johnson, vice president of labor at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, called the measure "unacceptable to the business community."

    The nation's Catholic bishops assailed it as a threat to U.S. citizens and legal residents, as well as illegal immigrants.

    Hispanic lawmakers including Reps. Hilda Solis, D-El Monte, Grace Napolitano, D-Santa Fe Springs, and Joe Baca, D-San Bernardino, condemned it as an "ineffective and irresponsible" measure that would only push illegal immigrants deeper into America's shadows.

    And a leading Republican strategist with close ties to the White House said even if the House passes the measure as expected, the bill will go nowhere until it also grants legal status to at least some of the country's estimated 11 million illegal immigrants.

    "The Senate is not going to pass something that is enforcement-only, and the president is not going to sign it," said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform.

    Johnson said that the existing employer verification system is only voluntary and is used by 3,600 employers to check about 750,000 employees. If it becomes mandatory, it would have
    to field inquiries on more than 140 million workers.

    "We just have concerns as to whether or not it's workable," Johnson said.

    The Rules Committee, headed by Rep. David Dreier, R-Glendora, was still debating potential amendments late Wednesday, including one by Ohio Rep. Steven Chabot that would allow businesses to check only new employees.

    The amendment drew support from Republicans and Democrats on the Rules Committee, even as other GOP members questioned other fundamental elements of the bill.

    Rep. Adam Putnam, R-Florida, said he opposes making the act of being in the U.S. illegally a felony, recalling a 17-year-old constituent who found out only when she was applying for scholarships that her parents brought her illegally to the U.S. as an infant.

    "No one believes we're going to arrest a 17-year-old girl who was brough here illegally as a 3-month-old, and God forbid we should," Putnam said.

    Others, including Southern California Republicans, sought to expand the bill and make it even tougher on illegal immigrants and those who would try to use America to gain citizenship for their children.

    Rep. Gary Miller, R-Brea, sought an amendment barring pregnant women from entering the U.S. for the purpose of giving birth in America, and requiring all mortgage credit applicants to be citizens or legal residents.

    Lisa Friedman, (202) 662-8731

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    It's like hell vomited and the Bush administration appeared.

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    "The Senate is not going to pass something that is enforcement-only, and the president is not going to sign it," said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform.
    Our government at work. Amnesty or nothing.
    It's like hell vomited and the Bush administration appeared.

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    Why should the President sign it--the new law would make him a felon for aiding and abetting several federal criminals!!
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    I am no particular friend of illegal aliens but their rights have to be compared with those of non immigrants not resident in the United States. The mortgage ban is too broad it should focus on banning of eligibility for a primary residence mortgage and of taxpayer subsidized mortgages. A person regardless of residence or immigration status has the right to own property. However a person who does not have papers for a legal immigration should not be able to claim their primary home is in the United States. The tax issue is that America curtails the number of people whose public benefits are exceeded by their tax payments. The illegal aliens
    here should not be able to second guess the citizen voters.
    I support enforcement and see its lack as bad for the 3rd World as well. Remittances are now mostly spent on consumption not production assets. Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

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    While entering the U.S. illegally currently is a felony, living in the country without proper paperwork is a civil offense.
    I dare ANY sane person on this planet to defend the absurdity of the above quote.

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    These people are insane. There is GROVER NORQUIST popping up again. This is the advisor to the President of the United States and the GOP who is Chairman Emeritus of the Islamic Institute. He founded it; opeates our of their offices on a shared basis.

    Do a google of Grover Norquist and the Islamic Institute and see what you find.



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