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    Greyhound policy could drive off Latinos

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    Greyhound policy could drive off Latinos

    11:45 AM CDT on Wednesday, October 19, 2005

    By DIANNE SOLÃ?S / The Dallas Morning News

    A decade ago, Greyhound Lines Inc. accelerated its courtship of Latino consumers. Now, its policy on illegal immigrants threatens that relationship.

    Bus driver Eudoro de Leon takes tickets at the Oak Cliff SITA terminal, where the Greyhound unit has signs describing its illegal immigrant policy.

    The nation's largest intercity bus carrier has recently come under fire from Latino groups over its policy to ferret out illegal immigrants – and their smugglers – who might be using its buses.

    The Dallas-based company's dilemma sheds light on a fast-rising issue for many U.S. companies.

    They want to do business with the booming illegal immigrant market – but must surmount many technical, and sometimes legal, difficulties to do so.

    And it comes as Congress debates the hot-button issue of illegal immigration, with no resolution in sight.

    Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said Monday that the Senate will not take up comprehensive immigration legislation until January.

    U.S. companies are under no obligation to check the immigration documents of consumers.

    But Greyhound, as a partial investor in another bus line, ran into legal trouble when the U.S. government said that smugglers used that carrier's buses.

    Greyhound drafted its policy after the U.S. government levied a $3 million fine last year against Golden State Transportation for conspiring with smugglers to illegally transport thousands of undocumented immigrants on routes that included Los Angeles, El Paso and Tucson, Ariz.

    Greyhound's SITA Inc., a Latino-focused subsidiary, had a 51 percent stake in the now-bankrupt Golden State.

    Customers can now find bold advisories at SITA's Americanos terminal in the heavily Latino Oak Cliff area of Dallas.

    "Our company will aid in the arrest and prosecution of any persons attempting illegal entry into the United States, and/or the transporting of illegal drugs or contraband," reads a yellow sign near the ticket booth.

    Laminated posters in the lounge further outline the policy on illegal immigrants, especially "alien smugglers."

    How can they be identified? Smugglers, the posters say, might use terms like "mi cargo," my freight, or "mi pollito ," which is Spanish slang for a smuggled person.

    Profiling?

    Latino advocates from the National Council of La Raza and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund characterize Greyhound and SITA's response as an overreaction that could raise issues of racial profiling. {so what? I think we need to start profiling. It's common sense that most illegals are latino so why not start profiling to get rid of them?}

    "In the course of trying to protect themselves from excessive and aggressive government enforcement, they are potentially inviting a civil rights lawsuit," said La Raza vice president Cecilia Muñoz. {oh I'm sorry, could you show me where it says illegal aliens have any rights?}

    Al Penedo, SITA's president and chief executive, bristles at charges that the bus line might engage in racial profiling.

    "I take it very personally when someone says we profile," he said. {I'd pat them on the back for having some balls}

    Greyhound spokesman Eric Wesley added, "We don't train our people to look at a group of people by ethnicity or race." The written policy, in fact, tells employees not to engage in the practice.

    "The policy is directed at avoiding the coyotes," Mr. Penedo said.

    Some smugglers are so blatant in their approach that, according to Mr. Penedo, "they pretty much had no quarrel in saying, 'These are my illegal aliens, and I need to check them from point A to B.' "

    As a result, Greyhound and SITA specify that purchases of eight tickets or more will receive greater scrutiny and require more forms.

    Until the outcry from the Latino community, which has included protests in Los Angeles and Phoenix, the policy had been to scrutinize customers buying four tickets or more – which covered a lot of families traveling together.

    Neither Greyhound nor SITA officials could say how many customers have been denied tickets under the policy.

    U.S. immigration officials acknowledge that Greyhound is under no obligation to check the immigration status of ticket buyers, except in very rare cases.

    "Officers from Greyhound are not qualified for that job of determining whether the people who come on board their buses are illegal aliens," said Carl Rusnok, a spokesman for the regional office of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    Commercial courtship

    The Greyhound backlash comes as the commercial courtship of the immigrant market couldn't be more ardent.

    The number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. has swelled to 11 million, with the majority from Latin America. They've pushed the total Latino population to 41 million.

    Latinos – legal and illegal – now have a collective buying power of $736 billion, according to the Selig Center for Economic Growth at the University of Georgia.

    Businesses from real estate companies to banks to electronic-goods makers are finding ways to end-run the lack of Social Security cards, credit histories and employer references among illegal immigrants.

    Real estate companies, for example, are now using taxpayer identification numbers rather than Social Security numbers in mortgage and sale documents for homes.

    Others are coaching immigrants, who may be paid in cash only, to open a bank account and make regular deposits to establish at least a six-month pay record.

    Many banks and electronics firms that sell on credit now accept the Mexican government-issued matricula consular identification card in place of a U.S. driver's license.

    Laws and policies

    Greyhound became entangled in a decades-old portion of the law that prohibits the transportation of persons in the U.S. illegally by smugglers.

    Greyhound's policy specifically states that "the company is not to do business with illegal aliens or with alien smugglers."

    The signs irritate some Hispanic customers.

    "I don't understand why they do this," Mexico-born Jaime Lozano, 72, said in Spanish as he boarded an Americanos bus to Chicago last week. "Folks pay for a ticket."

    Consumer reaction

    Greyhound buses carry 21 million passengers a year, and 20 percent of them are Hispanic. Greyhound officials did not provide data for SITA.

    Marketing experts say that Greyhound should be concerned about reactions from Latino consumers like Mr. Lozano, who lives in the U.S. legally but is sensitive to immigration issues.

    "In fairness to Greyhound, I could certainly see networks of polleros [slang for a human smuggler] using Greyhound to facilitate their ends," said Gustavo Bujanda, an Hispanic market expert at advertising agency Cartel Group.

    "Still, I would think that there needs to be a smarter way of trying to deal with this." {what you mean by turning a blind eye?}

    Otherwise, he said, Greyhound and Americanos can end up "shooting themselves in the foot."

    Felipe Korzenny, founder of the Center for the Study of Hispanic Marketing Communication at Florida State University, said that Greyhound executives are "in a real bind, but they have to be careful about how they protect their corporate identity."

    Ultimately, it could hurt the revenue of the parent company, Mr. Korzenny said.

    This year, Greyhound provided about a third of the revenue to its parent, Laidlaw International Inc., a publicly traded company based in Naperville, Ill., with $2.4 billion in revenue in the first three quarters of this fiscal year.

    Mr. Penedo said there's been a steady increase in passengers using SITA's Americanos and Crucero bus lines.

    Even so, he said, "The last thing we want to do is send the wrong message."

    E-mail dsolis@dallasnews.com

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    We should all try to find a link so we can contact Greyhound and thank them. Let them know that they aren't alone and America supports what they are doing.
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    I sent this letter off to Greyhound:

    I just wanted to thank your company for it's policies concerning illegal immigrants and their smugglers. I'm glad that at least one company realizes that aiding and abetting illegal aliens is a federal crime. I think your policy on this matter is a very smart and common sense approach to the problem. Also may I suggest that if you happen to come across illegal aliens and their smugglers, don't hesitate to call INS and the Feds and demand that they come remove the illegals and their smugglers. I would also encourage you to not succumb to the pressure groups who might try to get you to change your policies. They will claim that your racist or your conducting profiling. I will tell you that they are a vast minority of radicals that don't have America's or your best interest at heart. Believe me when I say that the majority of Americans support you on this policy even more so then you realize. Thank you for doing the right thing.
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