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    Health Care Overhaul Ignores Illegal Immigrants

    Health Care Overhaul Ignores Illegal Immigrants

    National Public Radio (NPR)
    SHOW: Morning Edition 11:00 PM EST NPR
    July 8, 2009 Wednesday

    RENEE MONTAGNE, host:

    Those confirmation hearings come in the same summer as Congress works to overhaul the health care system, although one segment of the population is not being discussed in Congress. There's no proposal to cover the nation's estimated 11 million illegal immigrants. NPR's Jennifer Ludden reports on the political and economic questions involved.

    JENNIFER LUDDEN: Of the estimated 46 million uninsured, a good 20 percent are foreign-born, non-citizens. In fact, this has been the fastest growing segment of those without insurance. But figuring out how many in this group are illegal immigrants and what's spent on them is tough.

    Mr. JOHN SHEILS (Lewin Group): This is something you have to estimate. Nobody sat down and just tallied this up.

    LUDDEN: John Sheils is with the Lewin Group, a nonpartisan healthcare consulting firm. He says surveys about insurance don't ask legal status, but an array of analysts has extrapolated a best guess.

    Mr. SHEILS: Well, we've estimated about 6.1 million of the uninsured are actually undocumented.

    LUDDEN: That's only about half the total population of undocumented. Sheils says many illegal immigrants use false documents to work on the books, with regular tax deductions and benefits.

    Mr. SHEILS: And a lot of those people are getting employer health benefits as part of their compensation.

    LUDDEN: A spokesman with America's Health Insurance Plans says it's possible that individual insurance companies could check for legal status, but employer- provided coverage is vetted at the workplace. If a fake ID can get you a job, it can also get your family health insurance.

    In fact, Sheils says this is something lawmakers might want to consider as they craft legislation aiming for near-universal coverage.

    Mr. SHEILS: If you design a plan improperly, you actually would wind up taking away their insurance, creating new uninsured people.

    LUDDEN: But what about those illegal immigrants who today don't have health insurance? Some estimated six million people, others about eight million. That is still a sizeable chunk. How much health care do they use each year?

    Mr. PAUL FRONSTIN (Employee Benefit Research Institute): The economics aren't as great as they've been made out to be.

    LUDDEN: Paul Fronstin is with the Employee Benefit Research Institute. He says illegal immigrants are younger, and so generally healthier than the overall population. And studies show they go to the doctor far less than the native born. Their share of the healthcare system is miniscule.

    Mr. FRONSTIN: We're talking about 1 or 2 percent of what we spend on health care, which, keep in mind, is over $2 trillion now.

    LUDDEN: That 1 or 2 percent includes those who are insured, or those who pay out of pocket. A small slice - but still about $1 billion - is paid for by Emergency Medicaid. That's a federal program that covers emergency care for patients who can't prove their legal status.

    Analyst John Sheils of the Lewin Group estimates that about $5 billion in care for the undocumented is uncompensated in any way. He says that's a blip on the national healthcare system, some 2/10ths of 1 percent. But it can hurt when it falls disproportionately, say, on hospitals along the southern border.

    Ms. CARLA LUGGIERO (American Hospital Association): Some hospitals have had to cut back services to their community at large because they have to absorb the added costs.

    LUDDEN: Carla Luggiero is with the American Hospital Association, and she's seen more and more hospitals face the burden of caring for illegal immigrants in the past decade. Some have had to raise fees. Others qualify for extra federal subsidies if they have an especially large number of Medicare or Medicaid patients. Luggiero says this can be a way to indirectly cover part of the cost of caring for the undocumented.

    Ms. LUGGIERO: So although those programs do not reimburse for the care of undocumented and uninsured individuals, collectively, we as society do end up bearing that cost.

    LUDDEN: Luggiero says if Congress does not include illegal immigrants in any health plan, hospitals will look for those federal payments to continue.

    Peter Harbage of the Center for American Progress says health care for the undocumented is as much a political question as an economic one. No one wants to subsidize primary care for those with no right to be in the country, yet it's accepted that emergency care will be provided.

    Mr. PETER HARBAGE (Center for American Progress): And so if some of those dollars maybe were used up front, you could have a more efficient system.

    LUDDEN: But Harbage says that's not a conversation Congress wants to have right now.

    Jennifer Ludden, NPR News, Washington.

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    Mr. PAUL FRONSTIN (Employee Benefit Research Institute): The economics aren't as great as they've been made out to be.

    LUDDEN: Paul Fronstin is with the Employee Benefit Research Institute. He says illegal immigrants are younger, and so generally healthier than the overall population. And studies show they go to the doctor far less than the native born. Their share of the healthcare system is miniscule.
    LOL what a crock of BULL! The "younger" women use a HUGE chunk aka popping out the anchor babies like candy, without paying!! That has GOT to stop! Free medical for all those kiddies and their mamas.

    Since when is pregnancy an "emergency" medical situation? It's not like it's a sudden thing, takes 9 months! Make the illegals PAY to have their anchors, that'll slow down the birth rates pretty quick!
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