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    Hispanic DWIs rooted in immigrants' culture

    http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/559842.html

    Lifestyle, isolation figure in driving drunk

    Eliseo Hernandez, 54, bathes his son, Diego Hernandez-Morris, 5, every evening at a care center in Greenville. Diego was nearly killed last year in a crash caused by a driver accused of drinking.

    When Eliseo Hernandez came to the United States 30 years ago, he thought he drove better after a few beers. Driving drunk had been normal back in Mexico, he said. But Hernandez, 54, learned of its perils firsthand. He quit the practice after falling asleep at the wheel and hitting a tree 18 years ago.

    Then, last year, a young Hispanic man who authorities say was drunk nearly killed Hernandez's only son, Diego, in a crash on a rural Johnston County road. Eliseo Hernandez's daughter, who was nine months pregnant, lost her unborn child in the accident.

    Hernandez has spent the past year following Diego through four hospitals and 14 brain surgeries. Diego only recently began to smile again and might never walk.

    Hernandez said he hopes his painful journey will teach his friends and family a lesson. Car accidents are the top killer of Hispanics in North Carolina, and the disproportionate number of alcohol-related arrests and wrecks are an embarrassment to a minority already beleaguered by hard feelings over illegal immigration.

    "It makes the Mexicans look bad, very bad," Hernandez said. "The American people say 'Oh, it's just another Hispanic, the same as the others.' "

    In 2005, there were 37 alcohol-related crashes caused by Hispanic drivers for every 10,000 Hispanics in the state, according to the UNC Highway Safety Research Center. That is more than three times the rate of alcohol-related crashes among non-Hispanics.

    Hispanic leaders are struggling to stem a problem that they say is rooted in the waves of young men who leave the calming influences of church and family to labor alone in a new country.

    "It's difficult because you're trying to compete with the loneliness," said Tony Asion, public safety director for El Pueblo, an Hispanic advocacy group. "Then, as some learn, more come, and we start again."

    Carnage continues

    Last month, a Johnston County father and son died in a fiery crash authorities say was caused by Luciano Tellez, 31, an illegal immigrant from Mexico. Dwane Braswell, 35, and his son Jerry, 9, were riding in a tractor-trailer cab on N.C. 210 in the Cleveland community of Johnston County when Tellez struck the tractor and rolled it into a ditch, where it caught fire.

    Empty beer cans were found in Tellez' car, but authorities say it is impossible to know whether he was drunk.

    It was the latest in a string of such accidents caused by Hispanic men. In February in Salisbury, a woman who was eight months pregnant and her unborn child were killed. In October, it was two college students and a high school boy. In January 2006, a man from El Salvador killed a Hillsborough woman in a head-on crash and fled, leaving an injured passenger in his own car.

    Researchers say drunken driving among Hispanics is at least partially explained by demographics. As in many places where immigration is fairly recent, the Hispanic population in North Carolina is young and dominated by men -- both factors that make them statistically more likely to drive drunk.

    Men in their 20s and 30s made up more than half the people charged with DWI statewide in the year ending last July. Nearly 40 percent of North Carolina Hispanics were 21- to 39-year-old men in 2005, according to census estimates. This same age range accounted for only 18 percent of blacks and 16 percent of whites.

    Bobby Dunn, who counsels Spanish-speaking DWI convicts in Johnston and Wilson counties, said his clients are often young men far from home with money in their pockets for the first time. Many were too poor to have cars in Mexico, so they have little experience behind the wheel.

    They also see drinking as a way of showing their manhood.
    "The magic number is 12," Dunn said, or "un doce" in Spanish. "If you can drink 12 beers, you're a man."

    Others say heavy drinking is part of a lifestyle dominated by long work days building homes, painting or picking crops.

    Walking down Buck Jones Road to his apartment in West Raleigh, Alberto Gonzalez figured he would drink most of the 12-pack he had just bought that night, even though it was a weeknight.

    Gonzalez, 29, said he hadn't given much thought to spending a night without a beer in hand. "I just sit and drink," he said. "Maybe a friend will come by. Other than work, this is what I do."

    Hernandez was part of an early wave of young men who came to North Carolina to pick tobacco. There were so few Hispanics in North Carolina then, he said, he couldn't find a store that sold hot peppers or corn tortillas.

    He had been a drinker in Mexico, he said, but it got worse in the United States. He didn't have a family to tend to, and he felt very alone in a place where no one understood him.

    "When you are young, you don't think anything will happen to you," he said. "When you have a family, you care more about your life."

    In fact, the increasing number of Hispanic women and children in North Carolina may explain why the prevalence of drunken-driving accidents and arrests among Hispanics has not grown with the population.

    By some measures, DWI accidents and citations among Hispanics are actually diminishing.

    Hispanics made up 18 percent of the 75,000 DWI arrests last year, while they accounted for 6 percent of the population. The portion of DWI citations going to Hispanics has crept up slightly since 2000, even as the growth in the state's Hispanic population has outpaced overall population growth by more than 500 percent.

    Since 2000, alcohol-related crashes among Hispanics have dropped from 9 percent of all crashes that involve Hispanics to 7 percent.

    The pressure to reverse the trend is intense. Each fatality brings calls for deportations and tighter immigration controls.

    Luke Steele, 49, adds up the deaths and sees a growing problem that stems from immigration. He said his daughter lost her college roommate to a Hispanic drunken driver in October.

    Steele, a longtime fire rescue worker, also remembers a 1991 wreck in which a teenage girl was killed by an illegal immigrant who "skipped town before the case ever went to trial."

    "We've still got plenty of stupid white, black, pink and purple people that drive drunk. That's plenty to go around," he said. "The reality is if they weren't here, they could not kill people [while] driving drunk."

    After the March wreck in Johnston County, U.S. Rep. Sue Myrick, a Charlotte Republican, reintroduced a bill that would require the deportation of all immigrants convicted of drunken driving.

    And anti-immigration groups have seized on the issue as an effective marketing strategy for their cause.

    "The effect on the labor force is real, but it's indirect," said Mark Krikorian, director of the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, which favors tighter controls on immigration. "Whereas, an illegal alien who drives drunk and kills some newlywed couple is tangible."

    Asion, who leads El Pueblo's effort to curb drunken driving, works to separate the DWI problem from the immigration debate.

    Many Hispanics have not grown up with anti-drunken-driving messages, and it will take time for the ideas to take hold.

    "It's not something that you can do easily," Asion said. "If it was, then the U.S. population would have already done it."

    (Database manager David Raynor contributed to this report.)

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    Good find, John.
    What amazes me is the fact that some of these guys are 4 times the legal limit. It has been said that such high BAC often results in death or coma.
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    "The American people say 'Oh, it's just another Hispanic, the same as the others.' "
    Liar! What this American person says is it's just another DRUNK DRIVING ILLEGAL ALIEN!

    "It's difficult because you're trying to compete with the loneliness," said Tony Asion, public safety director for El Pueblo, an Hispanic advocacy group.
    How the hell can they be lonely when there are between 300,000 and 600,000 illegal aliens in NC and some live 10-20 per house?

    Marti Maguire and Kristin Collins, Staff Writers, either neglected to do complete research on the problem of drunk driving illegal aliens in NC or conveniently omitted:

    Jasmine Lawrence, Charlotte, April, 2005
    Scott Gardner, Gaston County, July 05-his wife Tina still requires round-the-clock care last I heard
    Min Chang, UNCC freshman, Dec 2005
    Sue Williamson, Durham, killed Nov 2006

    These are the ones I remember in the last two years. I wonder if El Pueblo's keeping a running list.

    "The magic number is 12," Dunn said, or "un doce" in Spanish. "If you can drink 12 beers, you're a man."
    And if they can drink 12 beers, get behind the wheel and kill unsuspecting Carolinians on the highway, what does that make them? MURDERERS!

    Walking down Buck Jones Road to his apartment in West Raleigh, Alberto Gonzalez figured he would drink most of the 12-pack he had just bought that night, even though it was a weeknight.
    Thank goodness he's walking but will he be driving after guzzling that 12-pack?

    In fact, the increasing number of Hispanic women and children in North Carolina may explain why the prevalence of drunken-driving accidents and arrests among Hispanics has not grown with the population.
    It's amazing what a couple or ten little anchors will do isn't it?

    "The reality is if they weren't here, they could not kill people [while] driving drunk."
    Now where have I heard this before?

    Asion, who leads El Pueblo's effort to curb drunken driving, works to separate the DWI problem from the immigration debate.
    Wasting your time Asion. They're one in the same.

    Many Hispanics have not grown up with anti-drunken-driving messages, and it will take time for the ideas to take hold.
    These illegal aliens (I don't know why these reporters can't seem to type these two words) should stay in their home countries where drunk driving's the norm.

    "It's not something that you can do easily," Asion said. "If it was, then the U.S. population would have already done it."
    It's not so easy, Tony, but we're working on it .

    I'm sick and tired of the RALEIGH NEWS AND OBSERVER trying to garner sympathy for these "poor" illegal aliens and challange them to do a story about Tina Gardner and her two young children, the Dwayne Braswell family, the Leeanna Newman family, or any other family that's been torn apart by these drunk driving illegal aliens.
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    In February in Salisbury, a woman who was eight months pregnant and her unborn child were killed.


    This woman has a name. She's Leeanna Newman.

    Leeanna's aunt is a member of ALIPAC.
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    any nhght after pm in NC got to a ABC liquor store and see teh Mexicans buying alcohol for the night , on weekdays!! so they get loaded.
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    There are no excuses for illegal aliens drinking and driving. They should not even be here in the first place. They drink out of loneliness? Gimmee a break how many anchor babies are born to illegal alien women in this country, they are in a baby boom of unwed woman having children by numerous different men. I do not think loneliness is the problem here, I believe it is their ignorant self-serving culture that is the root of this problem. They do not care about this country or its laws or they would not even be here. I like that new bill "The Scott Gardner Act" and hope it will pass as then they will deport all illegal aliens convicted of drunk driving which they are not doing now.
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    We have had numerous accidents in our town. A family's friend young daughter was recently hit by an intoxicated illegal alien. He ran away from the scene barefoot. He was later caught. They have been to court twice. The alien hired a lawyer to fight the charges?! This great guy was hit and killed on his Harley last year by an intoxicated illegal alien.

    And now Illlinois wants to give illegal aliens driving certificates?! Can anymore of our 5,000 strong go over and post some quick emails to our Illinois senators? The bill passed in the house and will come up in the senate sooner then later. Please help us stop this. I have the emails in blocks -so very easy to send mass messages.

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    Tony Asion of El Pueblo is a former police officer. You would
    expect a former law enforcement profession to have some
    sympathy for an innocent person killed by someone involved
    in illegal activities (notice the plural.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dem4labor
    Tony Asion of El Pueblo is a former police officer. You would
    expect a former law enforcement profession to have some
    sympathy for an innocent person killed by someone involved
    in illegal activities (notice the plural.)
    Tony's alliance is with whoever's paying him looks like.
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    Driving drunk had been normal back in Mexico,
    Lonely??? What was the reason in mexico??? It's just a sick excuse. They are just continuing the same practice after they arrive here. It has NOTHING to do with lonely. As was previously stated, it's hard to believe someone could be lonely with 12 other people in the house.

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