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    Holder Claims Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast and

    Holder Claims Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast and Furious


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    June 7, 2012

    (CNSNews.com) – Attorney General Eric Holder claimed during congressional testimony today that internal Justice Department emails that use the phrase “Fast and Furious” do not refer to the controversial gun-walking operation Fast and Furious.

    Under questioning from Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who read excerpts of the emails at a House Judiciary Committee hearing on Justice Department oversight, Holder claimed that the phrase “Fast and Furious” did not refer to Fast and Furious but instead referred to another gun-walking operation known as “Wide Receiver.”

    However, the emails refer to both programs -- "Fast and Furious" and the "Tucson case," from where Wide Receiver was launched -- and reveal Justice Department officials discussing how to handle media scrutiny when both operations become public.

    Among three of the emails (see Jason Weinstein Email Fast, Furious.pdf), the second, dated “October 17, 2010 11:07 PM,” was sent by Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein to James Trusty and it states: “Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed? It’s a tricky case, given the number of guns that have walked, but it is a significant set of prosecutions.”

    In the third email, dated Oct. 18, 2010, James Trusty writes back to Weinstein: “I think so, but the timing will be tricky, too. Looks like we’ll be able to unseal the Tucson case sooner than the Fast and Furious (although this may be just the difference between Nov. and Dec).”

    “It’s not clear how much we’re involved in the main F and F [Fast and Furious] case,” reads the email, “but we have Tucson [Wide Receiver] and now a new unrelated case with [redacted] targets. It’s not any big surprise that a bunch of US guns are being used in MX [Mexico], so I’m not sure how much grief we get for ‘guns walking.’ It may be more like ‘Finally, they’re going after people who sent guns down there.’” (See Jason Weinstein Email Fast, Furious.pdf)

    Operation Wide Receiver was run out of Tucson, Ariz., between 2006 and 2007 by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), a division of the Justice Department.

    In his testimony, Holder said that the emails only referred to Operation Wide Receiver.

    Holder told the committee: “That refers to Wide Receiver, not to Fast and Furious. The e-mail that you [Rep. Chaffetz] just read [between Trusty and Weinstein] – now this is important – that email referred to Wide Receiver, it did not refer to Fast and Furious. That has to be noted for the record.”

    Chaffetz, after a long pause, said, "No, it doesn't. It says Fast and Furious. 'Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed?' It's specific to Fast and Furious. That is not true, Mr. Attorney General. I'm happy to share it with you."


    U.S. Border Agent Brian A. Terry, shot and killed on Dec. 14, 2010, near Rio Rico, Arizona, while trying to catch bandits who target illegal immigrants. (AP Photo)

    Operation Fast and Furious was carried out by the ATF. It began in the fall of 2009 and continued into early 2011, during which time the federal government purposefully allowed known or suspected gun smugglers to purchase guns at federally licensed firearms dealers in Arizona. The government did not seek to abort these gun purchases, intercept the smugglers after the purchases, or recover the guns they had purchased.

    In some cases, as the government expected they would, the smugglers delivered the guns to Mexican drug trafficking organizations. Two rifles sold to a smuggler in the course of Operation Fast and Furious in January 2010 ended up at the scene of the murder of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in December 2010.

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    Chaffetz: Will AG Holder Explain His 'Reasonable' Conclusion From New Fast & Furious Docs?

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    Issa to AG Holder: Who Is Responsible for Operation Fast & Furious?

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    Rep. Poe to Holder: How Many Mexican People Have Been Killed From Fast & Furious Gun Trafficking?

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    Trey Gowdy is good!
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    ha ha ha.....blame it on Bush! Its not fast and furious i was talking about....it was
    "wide receiver"! what a crock of doo doo....
    But we could tell that from the title of the article

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    On the Poe tape at about 135 when Poe asks Holder how many Mexicans have been killed by the walked guns, Holder's slick lawyer answer was to start talking about the 64,000 guns from the US that have wound up in Mexico.

    Most of the 64,000 guns that they have traced that were sold to Mexico were sold to Mexico through the US Foreign Military sales program and were sold to the Mexican military and to South America, something that is conveniently not mentioned. A huge number were sold during the Clinton administration and they are the problem of the Mexican government. The Mexican government bought them and lost control of them because they lost control of a large part of their military.

    It doesn't seem to matter how many innocent Mexicans, men women and children, were killed, with these particular F&F guns, that would still be alive if this little operation had never happened. I getting the impression that they were simply collateral damage in the big picture of the Progressive's agenda of getting the numbers of guns and death up in Mexico to justify gun control in the US. Holder's callus disregard for the consequences of F&F and blase attitude he exhibited in this hearing about the people that have been killed is jarring and offensive. JMO
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