Thread: BUSH HAS SOLD US OUT!!!

Senators debate immigration reform

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By Kat Huang
UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL


Washington, DC, May. 18 (UPI) -- The Senate subcommittees on immigration and homeland security held a joint hearing Tuesday on the national-security threat posed by the unchecked passage of illegal aliens into the United States.

Amidst proposals to increase patrols on the borders and put new limits on who can enter the country, several experts emphasized a need to develop comprehensive policies.

"That investment will be undermined if we do not develop complementary strategies for controlling the illegal flow across our vast land borers," said former Undersecretary of Homeland Security for Border and Transportation Security Asa Hutchinson.

The hearing focused on the question of what to do with the 10 to 12 million illegal immigrants currently "living in the shadows" in the United States -- and on which the economy heavily relies.

Tension arose between those who favor President Bush's Temporary Worker Program, which would give workers legal status for three-year renewable periods but revoke their visas upon completion of their work, and the "work and stay bill" promoted by Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., which would allow illegal aliens to apply for permanent residency.

"Our current broken system provides badly needed sources of labor, but through illegal channels, posing a substantial and unacceptable risk to our national security," said Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas. "Yet simply closing our borders would secure our nation only by weakening our economy."

Businesses watched with dismay as President Bush's efforts to liberalize immigration laws were curbed by conservatives, but McCain's plan benefits U.S. fruit and vegetable farmers, hotel and restaurant owners, and construction companies that get access to an expanding pool of documented "guest workers" while some illegals already in the U.S. become eligible for permanent residency.

Concerned with threats greater than those posed by illegal laborers, West Point Law Professor Margaret Stock favors a temporary worker program to secure borders by allowing the government to focus on the people who mean to do harm, not on those who are "filling our labor market needs or trying to reunite with family members."

Kennedy expressed his agreement.

"We don't have enough resources to fence all around Canada, or all around the southern border," he said. "We have to stop using border guards to chase gardeners and parking lot attendants."

Though most illegal immigrants are Mexican laborers looking for work, officials are alarmed at the growing number of "OTMs" -- Other Than Mexicans -- who hail from terrorism hot spots such as Syria, Iran and Iraq.

Earlier this month FBI Director Robert Mueller testified before Congress that people from countries that are centers of al-Qaida activity are crossing into the United States through the porous Mexican border.

Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security James Loy recently said that intelligence reports suggest al-Qaida is considering using the southwest border to infiltrate the United States, either with falsified documents or by crossing the border in other illegal ways.

"If I were a terrorist, this is how I would look to come to the U.S.," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.Feinstein highlighted the growing number of OTMs entering the country: 30,142 were apprehended in 2003 and 44,617 in 2004, a 48-percent increase. In contrast to their clear-cut procedure in reprimanding illegal immigrants from Mexico, the administration practices what it calls a "non-specific policy" towards OTMs -- a policy that basically amounts to catch and release, Feinstein said.

Members present reached the consensus that the nation's immigration and border-security system is "broken" during a time it cannot afford to be.

"Our border inspection and security system at the ports of entry is full of holes," Cornyn said in his opening statement. "Our deployment of manpower and use of technology to secure the border between the ports of entry is inadequate, and our deportation process is over-litigated and under-equipped." In a previous hearing Thomas Walters of the Department of Homeland Security said 1 million illegal immigrants are apprehended annually. Quoting experts who estimate that for every illegal alien who is apprehended three or four others are not, Feinstein estimates that 3 to 4 million illegal aliens enter the United States annually. Of greater alarm is the fact that the number those apprehended is decreasing while the number of aliens residing in the United States is increasing.

Two months after signing an intelligence bill that authorized the government to add 10,000 border-security agents over five years, starting with an increase of 2,000 in 2006, President Bush requested only 210 more agents in the border provisions of the 2006 budget proposal, presented to Congress on Feb. 7, garnering criticism from border-control experts.

Stock said the government needs to appropriate billions of dollars to fund US-VISIT, a system that identifies people using inkless fingerprint scans as they pass through ports. Stock said she supports the program as a vital component of increased security.

"Without sufficient funding to support a fully operational program, delays could result in the entry and exists at our nation's ports, particularly land ports," she said.

Tension arose between those who favor President Bush's Temporary Worker Program, which would give workers legal status for three-year renewable periods but revoke their visas upon completion of their work, and the "work and stay bill" promoted by Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., which would allow illegal aliens to apply for permanent residency.

This is a set-up to give us a CHOICE BETWEEN HORROR & WORSE HORROR!! the bums are playing a game folks!

**I thought this session was cut today because Reed shut down the Senate??? I'm quite surprised.

FIRST OF ALL....all these BEANHEADS are operating from a FALSLE PREMISE....

WE DO NOT NEED THE LABOR!!!

WE DO NOT NEED THEIR "CONTRIBUTION"!!!

There are unemployed and underemployed Americans in the MILLIONS because of illegal and excess legal immigration!!!!

There are caged, welfared Americans in the MILLIONS because of illegal immigration and excess legal immigration!!!!

GET THESE BEANHEADS OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT...they are dishonest, they are uninformed, they are full of crap....

YOU CAN NOT BELIEVE ONE WORD COMING OUT OF MCCAIN, KENNEDY, WEST POINT, OR ANY OTHER PROPONENT OF IMMIGRANTS!!

Now now, not today, not anymore.

Kennedy expressed his agreement.

"We don't have enough resources to fence all around Canada, or all around the southern border," he said. "We have to stop using border guards to chase gardeners and parking lot attendants."

I dare anyone who isn't a flaming leftist to try saying something like this about our wonderful neighbors to the south.

I'll give you about 30 minutes before the thought police show up to escort you to a government re-education center.

When I've been at my lowest and most exausted times over the past few weeks..........I can always count on one of you guys to give me a great chuckle! You're all fabulous

I dare anyone who isn't a flaming leftist to try saying something like this about our wonderful neighbors to the south.

I'll give you about 30 minutes before the thought police show up to escort you to a government re-education center.

THANK YOU COUNT! I really needed the tonight

Originally Posted by Judy

FIRST OF ALL....all these BEANHEADS are operating from a FALSLE PREMISE....

WE DO NOT NEED THE LABOR!!!

WE DO NOT NEED THEIR "CONTRIBUTION"!!!

There are unemployed and underemployed Americans in the MILLIONS because of illegal and excess legal immigration!!!!

There are caged, welfared Americans in the MILLIONS because of illegal immigration and excess legal immigration!!!!

GET THESE BEANHEADS OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT...they are dishonest, they are uninformed, they are full of crap....

YOU CAN NOT BELIEVE ONE WORD COMING OUT OF MCCAIN, KENNEDY, WEST POINT, OR ANY OTHER PROPONENT OF IMMIGRANTS!!

Now now, not today, not anymore.

"Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improable, must be the TRUTH"

You're welcome, 2ndamendsis.

The absurdity of all this just drives me nuts. Here's Kennedy basically agreeing with Vincente about the low regard they both hold Mexicans (the brown ones that is, not the European ones) in, and he gets a free pass.

Hell, he might even let one of them scrape the barnicles off his yaught if they'll work cheaply enough. That's the kind of great guy he is.

It just boggles the mind.

CoutFloyd--You are so right!! Like I said, just give them a podium, a microphone, and they'll step in their own mess. The comments by Kennedy are totally demeaning. They are also untrue. They are Elitist Demeaning Hype....so obvious to the rest of us...but from their world...any put down of anyone is okay....JUST TO KEEP THE FLOW...IT IS THE FLOW THEY WANT...not the gardener....the FLOW IN MILLIONS at any cost into the USA....for reasons we now know.

Open Borders, Change in Political Power, Third World Economy, Disempowered Fiesty Americans, End of the USA as a Sovereign Nation....then One World Government ruled by the Rockefellers and Crones to manage the Drones....world wide....Globalism = Marxist Socialism = END of Earth.

The Devil Rises with all his Dark Angels....

The only Nation with the Power to Stop Him is the United States and the American People.

We MUST DO IT NOW, before we are de-plugged and lose our POWER.