Thread: IL: Immigration reform needed to avert violence, speaker say

This is so wrong. Do people really buy into this?
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Immigration reform needed to avert violence, speaker says
By Lenore T. Adkins | Daily Herald Staff

Rachel Heuman speaks at a community forum on immigration Saturday at Highland Avenue Church of the Brethren in Elgin. Heuman became involved with the immigrant population in the 1970s through her work with the United Farm Workers' grape and lettuce boycotts.


Published: 1/3/2010 12:01 AM


Racism is behind the movement against illegal immigration in America, Rachel Heuman, head of the Immigrant Advocacy Project in Evanston, said at a community forum Saturday in Elgin.

Moreover, she said she fears a "bloodbath" of increased violence against Hispanics if comprehensive immigration reform fails.

Heuman's talk was arranged by Fox Valley Citizens for Peace and Justice and meant to address what she called a rising tide of anti-immigration sentiment in the city.

She has a long history of supporting immigrants, starting in the 1970s with the United Farm Workers' boycott of lettuce and grapes.

Twenty-six people attended the 21/2 hour conversation that touched on the economic and political factors that bring illegal immigrants across the border, the horrors they endure on the journey, pending immigration reform at the federal level that would create a path to citizenship and the discrimination they sometimes face in the United States.

Heuman recalled a 2008 incident in Shenandoah, Pa., in which a group of white teenagers hurled racial epithets at a 25-year-old Mexican man, then beat him to death.

Two teens were found guilty of assault and acquitted of more serious charges.

"All of the virulence directed against immigrants is directed against Hispanics," said Heuman, the daughter of Russian immigrants. "My personal feeling is racism is at the root of this and they (groups against illegal immigration) get distorted facts to justify their views."

Nobody was in attendance from the Association for Legal Americans in Elgin, a group frequently mentioned Saturday, but not by name.

The group in 2008 pressured Elgin to crack down on illegal immigrants and the city agreed to some of their demands, including running audits to ensure the city isn't hiring undocumented workers.

Doug Heaton, past president of AFLA and a current member, says racism has nothing to do with the group's stance against illegal immigrants.

"I think whenever someone comes into this country illegally and is allowed to hide behind the lack of enforcement, it's wrong," Heaton said Saturday in a phone interview. "It's a demographic fact most of them are from Mexico or South America, but that really isn't our issue."

The lively discussion at the forum also focused on studying the issue in order to combat ignorance and hatred, how demand for cheap labor helps drives illegal immigration, how families are ripped apart when one or both spouses are deported, and realizing immigration reform is key to the future of the country.

Heuman hoped the forum would inspire the Fox Valley Citizens for Peace and Justice to join other local groups to raise awareness. But Chairwoman Mary Shesgreen said the group will instead decide which bills to support, talk to legislators, sign up for action alerts and give Heuman's group a donation.

"I just think it hasn't coalesced yet," Heuman said of her hopes for coalition building.

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"All of the virulence directed against immigrants is directed against Hispanics," said Heuman, the daughter of Russian immigrants. "My personal feeling is racism is at the root of this and they (groups against illegal immigration) get distorted facts to justify their views



Violence is only directed at hispanic "immigrants" is it?

Sounds like the only one distorting facts to justify their views is HER

Let's see...

illegal aliens deaths at the hands of Americans vs. American deaths at the hands of illegal aliens.

I think it's about (since 911).... 1: 10,000?

The use of facts to rationally form an opinion is gone in our society.

Racism is behind the movement against illegal immigration in America

It is about obaying the law, not racism. We want them to obey the laws by entering the country legally. We want the immigration laws enforced to the fullest extent possible. Wanting the laws enforced is not racism.

This is obviously a racist and violent society. Perhaps if they go home it would be safer for "immigrants" and their families.

If Rachel Heuman wants to live in a third-world banana republic, where obeying the rule of law is optional, she can leave anytime she likes. The racists here are people like illegal invaders and their supporters who jump at every opportunity to play the race card in order to stifle debate and get their beloved amnesty passed.

Nobody is listening (except for the 26 illegal invaders who attended your conversation) to you Rachel Heuman. Get a clue!

Why is it with a ratio of crime as Jonhaloi posted that these people have the nerve to cite only the cases of the occasional violence by Americans??
Invasions are usually repelled by resistance that includes violence. I do not want violence, and I am sure most Americans feel that way. The real problem is that our laws are not enforced by our elected officials and Americans are put in a position that they must take action themselves to protect our country, jobs and families.

I think that if someone opposed to the invasion attended one of these meetings and threw the true numbers at the speakers and supporters, there would be extreme violence by the invaders.

If there is more violence it will come from them not us. There has been more violence from their side not ours.

Immigration reform needed to avert violence, speaker says

In other words, if the illegal invaders do not get the amnesty they have been demanding (while waiving their beloved flag of mexico) and the amnesty they claim obama promised them in exchange for their votes, (this is what happens when you pander to an illegal and ignorant populace in exchange for votes) they are going to get violent!

Originally Posted by NoBueno

Immigration reform needed to avert violence, speaker says

In other words, if the illegal invaders do not get the amnesty they have been demanding (while waiving their beloved flag of mexico) and the amnesty they claim obama promised them in exchange for their votes, (this is what happens when you pander to an illegal and ignorant populace in exchange for votes) they are going to get violent!

I was also left wondering where she was going with her point NB. Just look at what she says here:

Moreover, she said she fears a "bloodbath" of increased violence against Hispanics if comprehensive immigration reform fails.


This really left me confused as to her mindset. She's implying that if amnesty fails, Americans are going to go on an all out rampage against illegal alien hispanics, slaughtering them in the streets for God's sake.

Not only WHERE in the heck is she getting THAT from, but even if there was the remotest chance of something so atrocious happening....and there isn't.....what protection does she think amnesty will provide? I mean honestly....would some protective bubble come with green cards, what?

That this woman was completely twisted in her thinking at this seminar is pretty obvious.


This I liked though.....talk about a polite smackdown

Heuman hoped the forum would inspire the Fox Valley Citizens for Peace and Justice to join other local groups to raise awareness. But Chairwoman Mary Shesgreen said the group will instead decide which bills to support, talk to legislators, sign up for action alerts and give Heuman's group a donation.

"I just think it hasn't coalesced yet," Heuman said of her hopes for coalition building



That this group didn't jump aboard the pro-amnesty lobbying bandwagon to team up with all of the radical, racist organizations, along with the tactful but noncommital response, IMO, speaks volumes.

Heuman is wrong.....it hasn't just not "coalesced yet". It's that virtually no one is going untouched, in some way, by the devastating economic conditions we're facing in this country right now and we're going to see more and more people and organizations who may have, in the past, been a little bit more supportive toward immigration issues, beginning to change their minds.