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    DSS officials said they have developed new screens to help validate the Social Security numbers of all food stamp recipients.
    I talked with a county DDS employee a couple of years ago who told me they didn't check SS#s at all. She got her panties in a wad when I told her they should. I wonder how many DDS jobs depend on illegal aliens.
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    First of all, that headline and opening needs to be changed to reflect that it was "THOUSANDS", not hundreds, committing the fraud.

    Looks like another effort by a pro-illegal journalist to minimalize crime by IAs.





    DSS security measures had previously disqualified 5,840 people from the food stamp program after determining they were using phony Social Security numbers, according to the audit.


    Add all of those numbers together.....ones collecting and ones denied.

    Almost 9,000 IAs who are not criminals, mind you, but hard working, good, decent, people of the highest moral character and superior family values who want only to better themselves and the American dream.

    Now, that was only the food stamp program. It would be very interesting to know the results of an audit concerning cash benefits.


    This is enough to make anyone's blood boil that it should ever have been permitted to happen in the first place. But, at this point in time, nothing can change the fact that it did happen and, thankfully, they are now doing the screenings.


    I'd be interested to find out just who ordered the audit and what compelled them to do so in addition to how many prosecutions there may be in the works.
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    Of course the people administering food stamps know this - but the more people they have on the rolls, the safer their job.

    Speaking of HUD. I saw interviews with two HUD officials, some years ago. These were written interviews. Both of them talked about the number of illegal aliens purchasing homes through HUD. One said if even a small percentage of the illegal aliens defaulted, the entire program would be in trouble.
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    Some of the complaints I've read by the groups fighting e-verify are concerned with legal citizens or residents using phony or stolen SS numbers. How is that a bad thing? It's just as illegal for them to use a stolen SS number as it is for illegal aliens who do it. How can identifying and prosecuting them be a bad thing? Use e-verify for every program that involves tax payer funds and a SS number.

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    Nothing should be surprising concerning how enterprising the illegal aliens are.

    In New Haven, Ct., social workers used a program that issued phony SS#s for illegal aliens to qualify for the federally funded fuel program.
    This program is also funded by the state and citizens donations as well. So actual citizens who could have used the funds were denied benefits since the program ran out early. We have some of the highest rates for utilities in the country and our elderly and poor should have had the funds. Instead bleeding heart social workers, utilizing an illegal program ( I assume it was illegal) give to people who are not legally entitled, the funds. I wonder WHO provided such a program to the city.

    The Fed's came down on New Haven about the illegal aliens getting federal funds, which is illegal. I will bet you they will still use this program again this year, since NH is sanctuary to so many. NH has a long legacy of using Fed funds illegally or being siphoned off, usual "city" stuff. I think the Feds should just disqualify any entity entitled to federal funds, city, state, individual, no matter and NOT release any further monies until they act in a law abiding manner. If they continue in abusing the system, they should be declared ineligible for a pre-determined time and ONLY after satisfactory inspection of documents attesting to their legality.

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    This is too ironic--food stamps are administered by SOCIAL SECURITY
    and applicants have to have a social security number. SOCIAL SECURITY DOES NOT APPARENTY USE IT'S OWN E-VERIFY PROGRAM TO PREVENT FOOD STAMP FRAUD.


    http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10101.html

    Food Stamp Facts
    SSA Publication No. 05-10101, September 2004, ICN 468655 [View .pdf] (En Español)
    The food stamp program helps low-income people buy food. Although it is a federal government program, it is run by state or local agencies.

    Contents Who can get food stamps?
    Resources (things you own)
    How can you apply for food stamps?
    How much can you get?
    Contacting Social Security
    Food stamps

    Who can get food stamps?
    Anyone can apply for food stamps. To get food stamps, you and the other people in your household must meet certain conditions. Everyone who is applying in your household must have or apply for a Social Security number and be either a U.S. citizen, U.S. national or have status as a qualified alien. The following qualified aliens are eligible for food stamps without a waiting period:

    Legal immigrant children under age 18;
    Blind or disabled legal immigrants who receive disability assistance or benefits;
    People who legally resided in the U.S. on August 22, 1996, and were age 65 or older on August 22, 1996;
    Lawful permanent residents who are active duty members or veterans of the U.S. armed forces or a spouse or a child of a veteran or active duty service member;
    Refugees admitted under section 207 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA);
    Asylees under section 208 of the INA;
    Deportees or removal withheld under section 234(h) or 241(b)(3) of the INA;
    Cuban or Haitian entrants under section 501(e) of the Refugee Education Assistance Act of 1980;
    Amerasian immigrants under section 584 of the Foreign Operations, Export Financing and Related Programs Appropriations Act of 1988.
    The following legal aliens are eligible without a waiting period even if they are not qualified aliens:

    Hmong or Highland Laotian tribal members (including their spouses and children) who helped the U.S. military during the Vietnam era;
    American Indians born in Canada;
    Members of Indian tribes under section 450b(e) of the Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance Act.
    The following qualified aliens are eligible if they have lived in the U.S. for five years in qualified status:
    Lawful permanent residents (they may be eligible sooner than five years if they have 40 work credits);
    Parolees (paroled for at least one year under section 212(d)(5) of INA);
    Conditional entrants under 203(a)(7) of INA in effect prior to April 1, 1980;
    A battered spouse, battered child or parent or child of a battered person with a petition pending under 204(a)(1)(A) or (B) or 244(a)(3) of INA.
    Most able-bodied people between the ages of 18 and 60 must register for work to qualify for food stamps. Many people may be required to participate in an employment or training program. Some college students also may be eligible.

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    Resources (things you own)
    Generally, your household cannot have more than $2,000 in resources. But, if your household includes a person age 60 or older or who is disabled, the limit is $3,000. Resources of people who receive Supplemental Security Income (SSI) or benefits under the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program are not counted for food stamp purposes. Resources include cash, bank accounts and other property.

    Not all the things you own count. For example, your home and the land it is on do not count for food stamp eligibility. A car or truck counts differently depending on how it is used. Most states now use TANF rules in place of food stamp vehicle rules if the TANF rules are more beneficial to the food stamp household.

    Most households also must meet an income limit. Certain things do not count as income and can be subtracted from your income. Your household may qualify for other income exclusions if it includes a person age 60 or older or disabled. The income limits vary by household size and may change each year.

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    How can you apply for food stamps?
    Food stamp applications are available at any Social Security office. If you and everyone in your household are applying for or already getting SSI payments, any Social Security office will help you fill out the food stamp application and send it to the food stamp office for you.

    All others, including those applying for or getting only Social Security, must take or send their food stamp applications to the local food stamp office or to any Social Security office where a food stamp representative works.

    When you are interviewed, you also should have:

    Identification such as a driver’s license, state ID, birth certificate or alien card;
    Proof of income such as pay stubs, Social Security, SSI, or a pension for each member of your household;
    Proof of how much you spend for child care;
    Rent receipts or proof of your mortgage payments;
    Records of your utility costs; and
    Medical bills for those members of your household age 60 or older, and for those who receive government payments such as Social Security or SSI because they are disabled.
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    How much can you get?
    You can find out how much you may be able to get online through the Food Stamp Pre-Screening Tool at www.foodstamps-step1.usda.gov.

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    Contacting Social Security
    Our website is a valuable resource for information about all of Social Security’s programs. There are a number of things you can do online.

    In addition to using our website, you can call us toll-free at 1-800-772-1213. We can answer specific questions from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m., Monday through Friday. We can provide information by automated phone service 24 hours a day. (You can use our automated response system to tell us a new address or request a replacement Medicare card.) If you are deaf or hard of hearing, you may call our TTY number, 1-800-325-0778.

    We treat all calls confidentially. We also want to make sure you receive accurate and courteous service. That is why we have a second Social Security representative monitor some telephone calls.

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    Food Stamps
    Help, Information and Applications
    Available at any Social Security Office Getting or applying only for Social Security?

    YOU CAN GET A FOOD STAMP APPLICATION AND INFORMATION AT ANY SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE.

    We cannot take food stamp applications from people getting or applying only for Social Security.

    Getting or applying for Supplemental Security Income (SSI)?

    YOU CAN APPLY FOR FOOD STAMPS AT ANY SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE IF YOU AND EVERYONE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD GET OR APPLY FOR SSI.

    We will help you fill out the food stamp application. You do not have to go to the food stamp office to apply.

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