Thread: Carlos Lamadrid's family speaks out about Border Patrol shoo

Carlos Lamadrid's family speaks out about Border Patrol shooting
Posted: Mar 27, 2011 7:41 PM CDT
Updated: Mar 27, 2011 7:41 PM CDT
By Joel Waldman, Reporter -

NEW: 4 MINUTE VIDEO

DOUGLAS, Ariz. (KGUN9-TV) – From a munchkin sized mariachi to a singing one, Carlos Lamadrid's life was filled with music. But, his family's world went silent last Monday when the 19-year-old was shot and killed by Border Patrol. And, now, tears are breaking that quiet.

"Carlos was my first born. We will miss everything from him," said Lamadrid's mother, Lupita Guerrero-Lamadrid, through a translator.

Like the kicks he got out of soccer, and the fun he had hanging around with his family, especially his young wife who begged him to hang on; "I was telling him to be strong, not to leave me alone or anything. And, the only thing I saw was a tear drop down his face," said Nydia Valenzuela.

And, a drop is just about all authorities are telling the family and KGUN9. Amateur video captured from the Mexican side shows an ambulance on scene ready to take Lamadrid. Officials will only say cops tried to stop Lamadrid in Douglas when he suddenly took off. Border Patrol caught up to him by the border and shot and hit Lamadrid three times, raising an even larger number of questions.

"There are a lot of people out there who are wondering if your husband was maybe trafficking drugs, was he doing that?" KGUN9 asked. "No, he was a good person, he was always with me. And, he was dedicated to his family," insisted Valenzuela.

And, his wife said her husband would never throw rocks at anyone, let alone Border Patrol. But, authorities say someone did throw rocks and a shattered Border Patrol truck's windshield is around to prove that. But, even if Lamadrid was the thrower, his family said rocks are an unfair fight against speeding bullets.

"What difference does a rock make to a bullet? And, he wouldn't have even had time to stop to pick up a rock to throw," said Valenzuela.

"Allegedly, if rocks were thrown, many would say that is deadly force and Border Patrol has the right to fire back?" KGUN9 asked. "It's debated policy. But, we know its left a trail of death along the U.S. –Mexico border," said Border Action Network Executive Director, Jennifer Allen.

Border Action Network arguing, in this case, that Lamadrid unfairly received the death penalty, consuming his mother who wonders why her son received such a harsh punishment, "She says it's not a fair fight and they (Border Patrol) could've used other techniques," said Guerrero-Lamadrid.

http://www.kgun9.com/global/story.asp?s=14330978

"What difference does a rock make to a bullet? And, he wouldn't have even had time to stop to pick up a rock to throw," said Valenzuela.
"Allegedly, if rocks were thrown, many would say that is deadly force and Border Patrol has the right to fire back?" KGUN9 asked. "It's debated policy.

if an officer feels that rock, which one already smashed a window is a weapon, the officer can use self defense

But, we know its left a trail of death along the U.S. –Mexico border," said Border Action Network Executive Director, Jennifer Allen.
Border Action Network arguing, in this case, that Lamadrid unfairly received the death penalty

oh so its okay if the agent were to have gotten hit in the head with the rock, but heaven forbid the officer use self defense in a split second decision. sorry Jennifer, you have no argument

Original posting of incident
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-232028.html

(EDITED to include this new story)
Border agent killed man climbing wall
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-232714.html

Anyone in our country in violation of US law should have no rights at all to sue for anything that happens in a fight with our border patrol, ICE, or state and local law enforcement whether they use rocks, fists, vehicles, knives, machetes, dogs or guns to precipitate.

I'm sorry this young man is dead, but he was in our country in violation of US immigration laws which we use armed law enforcement officers to enforce.

"There are a lot of people out there who are wondering if your husband was maybe trafficking drugs, was he doing that?" KGUN9 asked. "No, he was a good person, he was always with me. And, he was dedicated to his family," insisted Valenzuela.

Riiight He obviously wasn't with you then, was he?

I get so tickeld how familys take up for their own thug you see it all the time.Whether its an illegal or not they always try to say what a good person they were.Selling drugs robbing killing people and anything else they can get away with but they were a pillar to the community good father to[20 illeget kids]and how great he was even though his is a thug.Wake up family they aint all that if they wre they wouldnt be out there breaking the laws and getting killed they would have a real job and doing the right things instead of making head lines by getting caught in crimes or being killed for it.

there is now a four minute video at source link that was not there yesterday

"There are a lot of people out there who are wondering if your husband was maybe trafficking drugs, was he doing that?" KGUN9 asked. "No, he was a good person, he was always with me. And, he was dedicated to his family," insisted Valenzuela.

And we all know from the real article there was bails of drugs in the pick up they abandoned.

I don't care if he threw a rock, he was an accomplice and he was committing a crime.

Why run? He was in the catch and release zone, they would just pick him up and send him back. My bet is he was a mule and had dope on him. They interviewed his mother and wife in Douglas, AZ. Guess that just makes him a "good guy" out to hop the border out of America.

Dixie

Link to video
http://www.kgun9.com/global/Category.as ... nerclipid=