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    Immigration bill gets a hearing STRIVE ACT

    Immigration bill gets a hearing
    Subcommittee takes testimony on the issue despite earlier failure of a similar bill.
    By VANJA PETROVIC
    The Orange County Register

    WASHINGTON - Although the debate about a comprehensive immigration overhaul was stopped cold in the Senate earlier this year, the House immigration subcommittee held a hearing on the issue Thursday.

    The session, called by subcommittee Chairwoman Rep. Zoe Lofgren, came as a surprise because there is nearly no possibility of an immigration bill getting through Congress before the 2008 presidential election.

    The hearing examined the STRIVE Act, which would toughen the nation's borders, create a new guest worker program, require employers to verify the legal status of their workforces and allow an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants to earn their way to citizenship. It had many of the same elements as the failed Senate bill.

    Lofgren, D-San Jose, said she was enormously disappointed by the Senate's failure to pass a measure and wanted to give the issue a full airing in her subcommittee. "The details matter … and today, we will get the details," she said.

    The subcommittee heard from a dozen witnesses, including House members, activists and people whose lives were personally touched by the immigration issue.

    Eduardo Gonzalez, a Naval officer, told the subcommittee he was worried that before he gets back from his third deployment overseas his wife may be deported because she is undocumented. And Tony Wasilewski told the panel that his wife of 14 years was deported this year because she was denied political asylum. She took their 6-year-old son back to Poland with her.

    Much of the testimony at the hearing was a repetition of old talking points on the issue from those who support or oppose the comprehensive approach.

    "We should be ashamed of ourselves," for not passing a bill, said Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill. "We have failed the American people."

    House Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., complained about the use of the word amnesty.

    "This term amnesty has been misused more times in this debate than any other word I've heard in any other debate," Conyers said. "I've never before noticed so much anti-immigrant bias."

    The subcommittee's ranking Republican, Rep. Steve King of Iowa, was one of the few dissenting voices. King compared the STRIVE Act to the 1986 immigration law. He said that both are amnesty and would reward illegal behavior and disrespect of American law.

    "No one wants to repeat the mistake of 1986, but the STRIVE Act does that," he said. "The STRIVE Act sells U.S. citizenship for $2,100." King was referring to the fines illegal immigrants would pay to get on the path to citizenship.

    Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Carlsbad, agreed.

    "The STRIVE Act and similar plans have failed to gain a wide support from the American people for a very simple reason: Americans do not believe that we should reward people for breaking our laws," he said.

    Contact the writer: 202-628-6381 or vpetrovic@ocregister.com

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    "This term amnesty has been misused more times in this debate than any other word I've heard in any other debate," Conyers said. "I've never before noticed so much anti-immigrant bias."
    Well you are correct with this statement; however, it is you politicos who have misused this word by twisting into something it isn't, and then trying to ram it down the throats of the American people. You were counting on the ignorance of the American people, and we SHOWED YOU UP.

    Shame on us guiterrez? NO SHAME ON YOU FOR SUPPORTING SUCH A TRAITOROUS PLAN!
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sippy
    "This term amnesty has been misused more times in this debate than any other word I've heard in any other debate," Conyers said. "I've never before noticed so much anti-immigrant bias."
    Well you are correct with this statement; however, it is you politicos who have misused this word by twisting into something it isn't, and then trying to ram it down the throats of the American people. You were counting on the ignorance of the American people, and we SHOWED YOU UP.

    Shame on us guiterrez? NO SHAME ON YOU FOR SUPPORTING SUCH A TRAITOROUS PLAN!
    Or how about this one---'anti-immigrant' bias

    Lovely how key words are forever being ommitted from OBL/Amnesty statements. You know, I don't believe the word ILLEGAL is even in their vocabulary.

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    And it is all so simple, it is about legal or illegal and yet they always have to throw in the name calling to them it has nothing to do with what is right for American or Americans.

    They ignore the impact illegals are having on our society, all they have to do is stop turning a blind eye to what is happening all over the world, But the Bleeding hearts just don't understand you can not take in all of the worlds poor!


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    Quote Originally Posted by florgal
    Quote Originally Posted by sippy
    "This term amnesty has been misused more times in this debate than any other word I've heard in any other debate," Conyers said. "I've never before noticed so much anti-immigrant bias."
    Well you are correct with this statement; however, it is you politicos who have misused this word by twisting into something it isn't, and then trying to ram it down the throats of the American people. You were counting on the ignorance of the American people, and we SHOWED YOU UP.

    Shame on us guiterrez? NO SHAME ON YOU FOR SUPPORTING SUCH A TRAITOROUS PLAN!
    Or how about this one---'anti-immigrant' bias

    I love that one FG! I'm always amazed at the BS rhetoric they come up with!

    Lovely how key words are forever being ommitted from OBL/Amnesty statements. You know, I don't believe the word ILLEGAL is even in their vocabulary.
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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    HR 1645

    Sponsor: Rep. Luis Gutiérrez [D-IL] cosponsors (72)
    Cosponsors [as of 2007-09-07]
    Rep. Neil Abercrombie [D-HI]
    Rep. Joe Baca [D-CA]
    Rep. Xavier Becerra [D-CA]
    Rep. Shelley Berkley [D-NV]
    Rep. Timothy Bishop [D-NY]
    Rep. Earl Blumenauer [D-OR]
    Rep. Corrine Brown [D-FL]
    Rep. Lois Capps [D-CA]
    Rep. Dennis Cardoza [D-CA]
    Del. Donna Christensen [D-VI]
    Rep. William Clay [D-MO]
    Rep. Joseph Crowley [D-NY]
    Rep. Henry Cuellar [D-TX]
    Rep. Artur Davis [D-AL]
    Rep. Danny Davis [D-IL]
    Rep. Diana DeGette [D-CO]
    Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart [R-FL]
    Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart [R-FL]

    Rep. Keith Ellison [D-MN]
    Rep. Rahm Emanuel [D-IL]
    Rep. Philip English [R-PA]
    Del. Eni Faleomavaega [D-AS]
    Rep. Bob Filner [D-CA]
    Rep. Jeff Flake [R-AZ]
    Rep. Luis G. Fortuño (R) Puerto Rico
    Rep. Barney Frank [D-MA]
    Rep. Gabrielle Giffords [D-AZ]
    Rep. Charles Gonzalez [D-TX]
    Rep. Raul Grijalva [D-AZ]
    Rep. Jane Harman [D-CA]
    Rep. Alcee Hastings [D-FL]
    Rep. Rubén Hinojosa [D-TX]
    Rep. Michael Honda [D-CA]
    Rep. Steve Israel [D-NY]
    Rep. Jesse Jackson [D-IL]
    Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee [D-TX]
    Rep. Henry Johnson [D-GA]
    Rep. Dennis Kucinich [D-OH]
    Rep. Ray LaHood [R-IL]
    Rep. James Langevin [D-RI]
    Rep. Barbara Lee [D-CA]
    Rep. Nita Lowey [D-NY]
    Rep. Carolyn McCarthy [D-NY]
    Rep. Betty McCollum [D-MN]
    Rep. James McGovern [D-MA]
    Rep. Martin Meehan [D-MA]
    Rep. Kendrick Meek [D-FL]
    Rep. Gregory Meeks [D-NY]
    Rep. James Moran [D-VA]
    Rep. Grace Napolitano [D-CA]
    Rep. Richard Neal [D-MA]
    Del. Eleanor Norton [D-DC]
    Rep. John Olver [D-MA]
    Rep. Solomon Ortiz [D-TX]
    Rep. Frank Pallone [D-NJ]
    Rep. Edward Pastor [D-AZ]
    Rep. George Radanovich [R-CA]
    Rep. Silvestre Reyes [D-TX]
    Rep. Ciro Rodriguez [D-TX]
    Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen [R-FL]
    Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard [D-CA]
    Rep. Bobby Rush [D-IL]
    Rep. John Salazar [D-CO]
    Rep. Janice Schakowsky [D-IL]
    Rep. José Serrano [D-NY]
    Rep. Albio Sires [D-NJ]
    Rep. Hilda Solis [D-CA]
    Rep. Fortney Stark [D-CA]
    Rep. Christopher Van Hollen [D-MD]
    Rep. Nydia Velázquez [D-NY]
    Rep. Anthony Weiner [D-NY]
    Rep. Albert Wynn [D-MD]

    Bill Text: - CRS Summary
    - Full Text

    Status: Introduced Mar 22, 2007

    Scheduled for Debate -
    Voted on in House -
    Voted on in Senate -
    Signed by President -

    This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills go first to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills never make it out of committee.
    Last Action: May 5, 2007: House Homeland Security: Referred to the Subcommittee on Emergency Communications, Preparedness, and Response.
    Show All Related Votes
    Other Titles: -- STRIVE Act of 2007
    -- AgJOBS Act of 2007
    -- Agricultural Job Opportunities, Benefits, and Security Act of 2007
    -- Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act of 2007
    -- DREAM Act of 2007
    -- Major Disaster and Emergency Victims Immigration Benefits Preservation Act
    -- Return of Talent Act
    -- Strengthening American Citizenship Act of 2007


    Committee Assignments
    This bill is in the first stage of the legislative process where the bill is considered in committee and may undergo significant changes in markup sessions. The bill has been referred to the following committees:


    House Judiciary
    House Homeland Security
    House Homeland Security, Subcommittee on Border, Maritime, and Global Counterterrorism
    House Homeland Security, Subcommittee on Management, Investigations, and Oversight
    House Homeland Security, Subcommittee on Emergency Communications, Preparedness, and Response


    NO TO THIS PART:

    Subtitle C--Southern Border Security

    Sec. 121. Improving the security of Mexico's southern border.

    Sec. 122. Report on deaths at the United States-Mexico border.

    Sec. 123. Cooperation with the Government of Mexico.

    Sec. 124. Temporary National Guard support for securing the southern land border of the United States.

    Sec. 125. United States-Mexico Border Enforcement Review Commission.

    PLEASE REVIEW THIS SECTION:

    TITLE IV--NEW WORKER PROGRAM

    Sec. 401. Nonimmigrant worker.

    Sec. 402. Admission of nonimmigrant workers.

    Sec. 403. Employer obligations.

    Sec. 404. Alien employment management system.

    Sec. 405. Recruitment of United States workers.

    Sec. 406. Numerical limitations.

    Sec. 407. Adjustment to lawful permanent resident status.

    Sec. 408. Requirements for participating countries.

    Sec. 409. Compliance investigators.

    Sec. 410. Standing commission on immigration and labor markets.

    Sec. 411. Admission of nonimmigrants.

    Sec. 412. Agency representation and coordination.

    Sec. 413. Sense of Congress regarding personal protective equipment.

    Sec. 414. Rulemaking; effective date.

    Sec. 415. Authorization of appropriations.

    THIS IS TOTALLY OBJECTIONABLE:

    TITLE VI--LEGALIZATION OF UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS


    Subtitle A--Conditional Nonimmigrants

    Sec. 601. Conditional nonimmigrants.


    Sec. 602. Adjustment of status for conditional nonimmigrants.

    Sec. 603. Administrative and judicial review.

    Sec. 604. Mandatory disclosure of information.

    Sec. 605. Penalties for false statements in applications.

    Sec. 606. Aliens not subject to direct numerical limitations.

    Sec. 607. Employer protections.

    Sec. 608. Limitations on eligibility.

    Sec. 609. Rulemaking.

    Sec. 610. Authorization of appropriations.


    Subtitle B--DREAM Act of 2007

    Sec. 621. Short title.

    Sec. 622. Definitions.

    Sec. 623. Restoration of State option to determine residency for purposes of higher education benefits.

    Sec. 624. Cancellation of removal and adjustment of status of certain long-term residents who entered the United States as children.

    Sec. 625. Conditional permanent resident status.

    Sec. 626. Retroactive benefits under this Act.

    Sec. 627. Exclusive jurisdiction.

    Sec. 628. Penalties for false statements in application.

    Sec. 629. Confidentiality of information.

    Sec. 630. Expedited processing of applications; prohibition on fees.

    Sec. 631. Higher education assistance.

    Sec. 632. GAO report.


    Subtitle C--AgJOBS Act of 2007

    Sec. 641. Short title.

    Sec. 642. Definitions.


    Chapter 1--Pilot Program for Earned Status Adjustment of Agricultural Workers

    subchapter a--blue card status

    Sec. 643. Requirements for blue card status.

    Sec. 644. Treatment of aliens granted blue card status.

    Sec. 645. Adjustment to permanent residence.

    Sec. 646. Applications.

    Sec. 647. Waiver of numerical limitations and certain grounds for inadmissibility.

    Sec. 648. Administrative and judicial review.

    Sec. 649. Use of information.

    Sec. 650. Regulations, effective date, authorization of appropriations.


    subchapter b--correction of social security records

    Sec. 651. Correction of Social Security records.


    Chapter 2--Reform of H-2A Worker Program

    Sec. 652. Amendment to the Immigration and Nationality Act.


    Chapter 3--Miscellaneous Provisions

    Sec. 653. Determination and use of user fees.

    Sec. 654. Regulations.

    Sec. 655. Reports to Congress.

    Sec. 656. Effective date.

    Subtitle D--Programs to Assist Nonimmigrant Workers

    Sec. 661. Grants to support public education and community training.

    Sec. 662. Grant program to assist applicants for naturalization.

    Sec. 663. Strengthening American citizenship.

    Sec. 664. Addressing poverty in Mexico.

    THIS BILL IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. WE MUST LET THE HOUSE KNOW HOW WE FEEL. IT IS JUST ANOTHER SHAMNESTY BILL!!!!!!!

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    Just sent my letters and faxes. Making calls as I'm typing.
    So how many times are these dip wads going to try and ram this Dream act through? Isn't this the fourth time they've tried to piggy back this crap legislation with another totally unrelated bill?
    "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results is the definition of insanity. " Albert Einstein.

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