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    Immigration debate cools off

    Immigration debate cools off
    Wed Sep 3, 2008 6:48am EDT

    ST. PAUL (Reuters) - Immigration, once the hottest U.S. political issue, is on a backburner this election season with little firm evidence it will advance, no matter who moves into the White House in January.

    Calls for securing the southern U.S. border and overhauling outdated immigration laws exploded onto the national scene in 2006 with demonstrations in several big cities. Washington failed to work out a broad deal the following year.

    Two months before the presidential election, interest in immigration reform has given way to worries over energy prices. That, coupled with different strategies for wooing the votes of the country's growing Hispanic population and a sour U.S. economy, could be why immigration reform is dormant.

    "Despite the fact that immigration was the hottest issue, the thing that everyone talks now is energy," said Rep. Adam Putnam of Florida, a member of the House of Representatives' Republican leadership team, during a brief interview.

    As global oil prices surged this year, hitting U.S. consumers hard because of their gas-guzzling ways, Republicans in Congress have wanted to talk about little else lately other than expanding domestic oil drilling.

    Immigration reform was once a signature issue for Sen. John McCain, who accepts the Republican Party's nomination this week as their choice to run against Democrat Barack Obama in the November 4 election.

    Upholding his reputation as a political maverick, the Arizona senator had infuriated many Republican conservatives with his efforts to allow some who came to the United States illegally to work their way to permanent legal status.

    McCain also has embraced President George W. Bush's project to build a 670-mile fence separating the United States and Mexico to keep illegal immigrants out. Conservatives insist the fence along the southern U.S. border is an important national security tool.

    Democrats have promised to pass an immigration reform bill during Obama's first year in office. But plenty of details need to be worked out and efforts likely would be slowed by Republicans not wanting to hand Obama any major legislative victories, according to a former customs and border enforcement official close to the immigration debate.

    U.S. ECONOMY NEEDS WORKERS

    Whether the passion for immigration reform flares again will depend in part on the health of the U.S. economy. Rep. Duncan Hunter, a California Republican who opposes broad reforms, said rising unemployment in the United States is now discouraging both parties from raising the issue.

    But U.S. companies, many of which back broad reforms, want a more efficient way for bringing in more foreign workers, from low-paid temporary farm hands to nursing home helpers and high-paid high-tech specialists.

    "Both (political) parties are ducking the immigration issue," said Tom Donohue, head of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. "They don't want to get in the middle of it because everyone wants the Hispanic vote" that could be critical in many states this year, he said.

    That means, he said, that immigration reform advocates will ride their support among Hispanics to victory, while opponents, many of them conservative Republicans, will try to avoid the topic.

    The tough part of immigration reform, which pits McCain against his party's conservatives, is "amnesty," or whether an estimated 12 million foreigners who came to the United States illegally, should be allowed to eventually stay.

    Many of them now have U.S.-born offspring.

    Cecilia Munoz, senior vice president of the National Council of La Raza, the largest U.S. Hispanic civil rights group, disputes that the trail has gone cold on immigration reform. She noted that "in state and local elections all over the country, people are talking about it."


    From her view, the presidential candidates "do not have huge differences."

    The question is whether McCain, if elected, will be able to maintain a passionate support for broad reform and bring his party with him, Munoz said.

    So far, that hasn't happened.

    Republicans will anoint McCain as their leader this week, all the while embracing an immigration plank declaring: "We oppose amnesty. The rule of law suffers if government policies encourage or reward illegal activity."

    That stance might satisfy the most conservative in the Republican Party. But it risks offending another important constituency: longtime McCain supporters like Betty Hill.

    The retired Air Force lieutenant colonel who traveled from San Antonio, Texas, to attend the Republican convention, said she wants comprehensive immigration reform as one of the top goals of a McCain administration.

    Voicing support for amnesty, Hill said: "What do you do with 12 million people? There's no way you can deport all of them."



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    Voicing support for amnesty, Hill said: "What do you do with 12 million people? There's no way you can deport all of them."
    Si se puede deport them! We don't need illegal alien workers, we've got enough Americans to fill the jobs AT LIVABLE WAGES.

    Look at what happened after the Mississippi raid.
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    I think it's pathetic the way the media attempts to quash even the discussion of the issue of illegal immigration by claiming it's no longer an issue!
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    Re: Immigration debate cools off

    Quote Originally Posted by FedUpinFarmersBranch
    Voicing support for amnesty, Hill said: "What do you do with 12 million people? There's no way you can deport all of them."
    Mexico deported them here, why cannot we deport them back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    I think it's pathetic the way the media attempts to quash even the discussion of the issue of illegal immigration by claiming it's no longer an issue!
    As if a bank robber was hired into a newspaper and started writing articles like "Public agrees that more leniency needed when convicting bank robbers". Journalism has become one of the worst, low-ethics professions in the US.

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    Voicing support for amnesty, Hill said: "What do you do with 12 million people? There's no way you can deport all of them."
    Well..there's no way the police can possibly catch every drunk driver or speeder, but I certainly do not believe you would advocate (maybe she would) we make both speeding and drunk driving legal because of the inability to apprehend each violator.

    We do not have to deport 12 million (or whatever the number may be). We do need to enforce our laws and stop providing the goody basket of incentives the illegals find so appealing in this country!

    We do need to come down hard on those companies that hire illegal invaders. We do need to implement and make mandatory E-Verify so as to identify those ilegals who are using fradulent/stolen documents to secure work.

    We do need to get local police agencies involved as they are the ones who are likely to come into daily contact with illegals.

    You do not reward illegal behavior by making it legal, or throwing up your hands and surrendering! Why don't you try to implement a few of the above suggestions before you give up and declare we cannot deport 12 million, so lets just make them legal argument! That's the mark of a coward and traitor!
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    miguelina wrote:
    We don't need illegal alien workers, we've got enough Americans to fill the jobs AT LIVABLE WAGES.
    I think that there will soon be enough Americans who will take any jobs at unlivable wages, just to be able the feed their family living in the car.
    The fall of the Roman Empire, it seems, is being forced upon us.
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    TURN UP THE HEAT!!! and let's get illegal immigration back on the front burner.

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    Voicing support for amnesty, Hill said: "What do you do with 12 million people? There's no way you can deport all of them."
    YES WE CAN!
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