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    Protesters target deportation of mom with U.S. citizen kids

    Protesters target deportation of mom with U.S. citizen kids
    By Josh Brodesky
    arizona daily star
    Tucson, Arizona | Published: 01.01.2008
    Members of a border-rights group on Monday gathered in front of the Tucson Police Department headquarters Downtown to protest the deportation of a Mexican mother and her three young American children after a traffic stop in early December.
    Miriam Aviles de Reyes, whose children range in age from several weeks to 4 years, is returning to Cuernavaca, Mexico, after a deportation order requiring her to leave the U.S. by midnight Monday.
    "I guess I am going to have to go all the way over there; I don't know," Aviles de Reyes said through an interpreter.
    There is no debate over whether Aviles de Reyes was in the United States illegally, but Isabel Garcia, co-chair of Tucson-based Coalición de Derechos Humanos, said the Police Department overstepped its bounds when it called U.S. Customs and Border Protection after making a traffic stop involving Aviles de Reyes' family.
    "First of all, they violated their own policy of not enforcing immigration law," Garcia said.
    On Dec. 9, Officer James Kneup stopped a truck driven by Aviles de Reyes' husband, Gustavo Reyes, in the 1400 block of West Miracle Mile because a check of the license plate showed the truck's insurance had been suspended.
    The truck had Arizona plates, but Gustavo Reyes had a Sonoran driver's license. Moreover, both parents struggled to speak English.
    Because of this combination, Lt. Vicki Reza said there was "reasonable suspicion" that both parents were not in the country legally.
    "We may call the Border Patrol as a resource," Reza said, while also acknowledging that the officer could have called a bilingual city police officer.
    To make the situation more complicated, Aviles de Reyes went into labor after the U.S. Border Patrol arrived at the scene. While Aviles de Reyes was taken to a hospital to give birth while under the watch of the Border Patrol, the rest of her family was taken to a detention center for processing. The child, a boy, was born on Dec. 11.
    Gustavo Reyes has been deported to Mexico, but Aviles de Reyes was given 20 days before she would have to leave.
    Aviles de Reyes, 23, said she has lived in the United States for seven years. It was unclear if she worked while in the U.S., but she said her husband worked in construction.
    Standing in front of Tucson police headquarters with her three children, Aviles de Reyes said that police taunted her, and at one point she was pushed to her knees while police tried to get her to enter a Border Patrol van.
    But Reza denied those allegations, saying an informal internal review had found no wrongdoing or physical contact. Call-time records also did not match the timeline Aviles de Reyes and Garcia presented.
    Border Patrol officials also denied the allegations.
    "There is no record of any allegations of mistreatment in this case," said Border Patrol agent Dove Haber, an agency spokeswoman.
    Aviles de Reyes' three children are all U.S. citizens, but they will most likely be going to Mexico with their mother, said Mo Goldman, an immigration attorney who represented the woman.
    Goldman tried unsuccessfully to extend the amount of time Aviles de Reyes had before leaving to 120 days — the maximum time allowed for what are known as voluntary departures.
    "The sad thing is that our government would not have the humanity to allow her to remain for the entire 120 days, considering she just babied a child in the U.S. and would need some follow-up medical care," he said.
    A estimated 3.1 million children who are U.S. citizens are living in the United States with unauthorized families, according to a recent report by the Pew Hispanic Center.
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    Seems to me (border-rights group) at the police station would have been a great opportunity for ICE to check ID

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    Send her butt back to Mexico with her kids. I'm tired of these illegal people taking advantage of the taxpayer citizens of this country. Send her supporters back to Mexico with her. They can continue their support of her there!!
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    She could have dropped anchor in her native Mexico. She lived here for 7 years and never learned English?? This sob story is a prime example of exactly WHY those 20 million illegal aliens need to go bye-bye.
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    "The sad thing is that our government would not have the humanity to allow her to remain for the entire 120 days, considering she just babied a child in the U.S. and would need some follow-up medical care," he said.
    In other words, the government would not allow her to continue to break the law just because she dropped another anchor (at taxpayer expense) and would need more medical care, again at taxpayer expense. Doesn't get more inhumane than that
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    We need to refer to the original story and note that:

    Her husband had no driver's license.
    No insurance
    The three year old was NOT in a required car seat.
    The baby came with health issues that were addressed and paid for with US citizen's tax dollars.

    The Mexican Government has not been billed for their citizen's health care.

    This the same story played out hundreds of times all over the country. Citizens have to obey the laws ,uninvited "visitors" to this country, ie people that are not citizens and not under the "jurisdiction of the United States,should not be given free medical care.

    If their home countries were billed for the expenses of their citizens to include medical, incarceration and liability and that amount deducted from the "aid" that they receive Mexico would be paying us - a lot.

    But, they seem to get a free pass and free healthcare.

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/ ... 31-ON.html

    Mexican woman with three U.S. citizen children departing country
    Associated Press
    Dec. 31, 2007 04:38 PM

    TUCSON - A 23-year-old illegal immigrant woman with three American-born children, including one just three weeks old, will return voluntarily to Mexico after what supporters call a harrowing experience with authorities during a traffic stop.

    Miriam Aviles-Reyes and the human rights group Derechos Humanos said Monday a Tucson police officer was abusive and called the Border Patrol without necessary cause.

    Tucson police spokesmen denied that Officer James Kneup did anything wrong and said that he was following departmental policy when he pulled a pickup truck over on Dec. 9 after what Lt. Vicki Reza termed a random license plate check.





    The check showed that insurance on the vehicle was suspended, and when the driver, Gustavo Reyes, could not produce a valid driver's license and the officer had difficulty communicating with him or his pregnant wife and children inside the truck, Kneup called the Border Patrol, Reza said.

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    de Rechos Humanos would not represent us in Mexico if we were in a similar circumstance THEREFORE they should not even have their nose stuck in U.S. immigration business.

    The law is the law and illegal is illegal. If children are born here, they hold the solution in their hands, the children can go with them OR they can leave them for those in legal status to be raised.

    So SAD, too BAD.
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    After they stopped them, the police should have called for an express bus to dump her across the border.
    Since they received no aid according to Derechos Humanos, what would have been the difference.

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    I'm getting tired of hearing about this witch.

    The only problem she and her supporters, and attorney, have with Tucson is that she, her "husband", and kids were not given a free pass and allowed to continue on their merry way.

    They did not have their plate run for "no reason". With four people stuffed into the front of a pickup, and an unrestrained toddler be-bopping around in the cab, they caused that police officer to notice them and start taking a closer look. Just the fact that the child was unrestrained was going to lead to a traffic stop anyway because that's against the law in this state. And what do cops do before they stop someone? They run the plate to get an idea of what they might be dealing with.

    I'd be willing to bet the farm that this woman was probably in labor of some type already when the stop occured. It also would not surprise me if they were actually on the way to the hospital when they were stopped. At the very least, this woman knew she was in labor and was just going about her normal routine until she felt it was time to go to the hospital like we all do. Either way, that labor and delivery was no more caused by being roughed up, pushed around, and stressed out by the officer and BP agents, than she was here legally. As for the wailing and crying about this baby being born two weeks before it's due date.....oh please. It's common knowledge that due dates are an estimate only and the margin for delivery is two weeks before or after.

    All we're looking at is criminals who have no business being in this country to begin with and they are having an absolute tantrum over being caught and ending their tax payer funded "better life"
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    "The sad thing is that our government would not have the humanity to allow her to remain for the entire 120 days, considering she just babied a child in the U.S. and would need some follow-up medical care," he said.
    This would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. Families in Mexico have kids by the dozen and this old battle axe is trying to tell us this woman cannot possibly receive post-birth care in Mexico?

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